Trudeau unmuzzles scientists.

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So when can we expect to hear from these "un-muzzled" scientists ?

Almost ten years of Harper, you would think they would have something to say.
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Omnitheo wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/scientists-ministers-get-green-light-to-speak-under-trudeau-1.3307679?cmp=rss

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A promise to bring to light the censored science is not the same thing as bringing forward the science that was censored.
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Omnitheo wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/scientists-ministers-get-green-light-to-speak-under-trudeau-1.3307679?cmp=rss

Ask and you shall receive.



Yes we already know that they are unmuzzled, so lets hear about what they were not allowed to talk about. 10 years of being muzzled you would think they would have something to say.
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driveangry wrote:So when can we expect to hear from these "un-muzzled" scientists ?

Almost ten years of Harper, you would think they would have something to say.

whats the rush
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maryjane48 wrote:whats the rush
Well you'd think after ten years of being silenced like the anti Harper crowd has claimed they'd have lots to share.!
The silence is deafening though isn't it.!
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my point was i dnt understand why this would have to be done in few weks when its possible someone might have to vet what all can be said . if it could be classified or not .
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maryjane48 wrote:my point was i dnt understand why this would have to be done in few weks when its possible someone might have to vet what all can be said . if it could be classified or not .
So this thread may be a lie, and their still muzzled.? How can that be as you and others who lean left have claimed that was only a Harper rule.!
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If they had to sign a non-disclosure/confidentiality agreement while employed during the Harper years they won't be able to divulge anything to the public.
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oneh2obabe wrote:If they had to sign a non-disclosure/confidentiality agreement while employed during the Harper years they won't be able to divulge anything to the public.


What a fun win win scenario. If they have nothing to say it is because Harper still has them muzzled but if something does come out it is due to Trudeau saving us all. Cake and eat it too arguments are always fun.

So either the thread title is true or it isn't due to NDA's, you can't have both.
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IF they had to sign a NDA, they would be bound to it depending on whether a time constraint was one of the stipulations. Wouldn't make a difference if a new government came into power. Hell, I signed a NDA years ago with a firm that and according to the terms of the original NDA, will be free to talk about the work completed in 2020. Was the work of national importance? No, but the NDA was part and parcel of the contract that I'm still bound to even though the original company has been bought out by a competitor.
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oneh2obabe wrote:IF they had to sign a NDA, they would be bound to it depending on whether a time constraint was one of the stipulations. Wouldn't make a difference if a new government came into power. Hell, I signed a NDA years ago with a firm that and according to the terms of the original NDA, will be free to talk about the work completed in 2020. Was the work of national importance? No, but the NDA was part and parcel of the contract that I'm still bound to even though the original company has been bought out by a competitor.
Hogwash! If that was the case then why not simply state that ? Nothing stopping them from stating this except the fact it probably isn't the case.
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driveangry wrote:So when can we expect to hear from these "un-muzzled" scientists ?

Almost ten years of Harper, you would think they would have something to say.


When ? They will be able to say anything they want from now on instead of this :

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/faq-the-issues-around-muzzling-government-scientists-1.3079537

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/federal-scientists-closely-monitored-during-polar-conference-1.1248559
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Without Harper the Horrible forcing silence on scientists, bureaucrats and diplomats, Canada is in the process of becoming a better country.
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I Think wrote:Without Harper the Horrible forcing silence on scientists, bureaucrats and diplomats, Canada is in the process of becoming a better country.



Yes the roar of information from silenced scientists is deafening, isn't it.
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