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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 11th, 2013, 11:42 am

    George+ wrote:Many schools have fundraisers.
    Lower socio-economic areas do not do as well.
Many schools had fundraisers for trips that teachers had promised to sponsor. Then the teachers broke their promises because of job action that was "for the kids." Go figure.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 11th, 2013, 12:27 pm

And the kids were psychologically traumatized.

Reminds me of the right wing posters.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 11th, 2013, 1:06 pm

    George+ wrote:And the kids were psychologically traumatized.
    Reminds me of the right wing posters.
What a perfect example of hypocrisy! The teachable moment is here: You scream when you think that someone in the Liberal government might have broken a promise but you support your union buddies for breaking promises to kids! And then you have the gaul to parrot "It's all about the kids." Thanks for providing that teachable moment George. I hope you learned something!
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 11th, 2013, 2:38 pm

I am sure you said this, already.
Losing it?
Somehow, the kids survive just fine.
Even when their parents take them on long holidays during the school year.
Field trips are an unpaid, voluntary, part of Education.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 11th, 2013, 2:47 pm

    George+ wrote:I am sure you said this, already.
    Losing it?
    Somehow, the kids survive just fine.
    Even when their parents take them on long holidays during the school year.
    Field trips are an unpaid, voluntary, part of Education.
Trying to justify a broken promise to kids by suggesting that those kids will survive or that the person who promised something isn't getting paid to fulfill the promise should tell people all they need to know about the BCTF. Thanks, once again, for proving my point!
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 11th, 2013, 2:58 pm

Yes. Teachers do an amazing amount of unpaid, voluntary labor..
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 11th, 2013, 3:49 pm

    George+ wrote:Yes. Teachers do an amazing amount of unpaid, voluntary labor..
When they actually do it but when they break their promise and don't do it that's not amazing at all. In fact it's shameful. I did a lot of volunteer labour over the years and I never broke my promise regardless of the job action. I commend those teachers who break the now discredited BCTF "code of ethics" by helping students out of regular classroom hours, attending grad ceremonies, fulfilling a promise that they've made to take a field trip or to coach a team despite the job action. I salute those teachers. Keep posting George. You just keep proving my point over and over and over.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby kibbs » Feb 11th, 2013, 6:16 pm

ceremonies, fulfilling a promise that they've made to take a field trip or to coach a team despite the job action. I salute those teachers


Hear hear well said .No greater praise can I offer to the teacher who carries on despite what their union tells them to do .Hooray to the teacher who leaves all aspects of job action away from children.We do our very best we can for our kids and the system is working against that .Are we just going to take it up the hallway.I don't just want my kid to survive I want him to THRIVE. I'm protesting Feb 14th .cant wait to here from my mpp.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 11th, 2013, 11:48 pm

Won't solve anything.
Neither will Urbane's attitude of trying to get rid of unions.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby LoneWolf_53 » Feb 12th, 2013, 1:59 am

George why don't you just make like a bird, and flock off, instead of posting the same shyte in every thread. Worse than acne for goodness sake!
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby kibbs » Feb 12th, 2013, 7:43 am

Won't solve anything.

Of course it wont .it will plant the seeds of change.You are right we will never get rid of the unions but why cant their role change.Teachers have got it good compared to most .Their wages are good and so is their benefit and retirement. Most are doing with less.Instead of trying to make their job sweeter ,Make them better teachers.Offer more training so they are better able to handle 30 kids and ones with special needs.The times have changed and so must the unions role or we will kill them.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 12th, 2013, 10:55 am

      George+ wrote:Won't solve anything.
      Neither will Urbane's attitude of trying to get rid of unions.
      Mr. Piety.
"Just because someone has the right doesn't make it right" is a much better credo than "might makes right." When your arguments about it being "all for the kids" evaporate and you're left with nothing else you fall back on the power of the union which you say is here to stay. Not exactly the moral high ground you're on George so I accept the "piety" label as a compliment.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 12th, 2013, 12:33 pm

You deserve it.
Ten years from now the kids and the union will still be here.
Figure out how to work with both of them.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby Urbane » Feb 12th, 2013, 1:27 pm

    George+ wrote:You deserve it.
    Ten years from now the kids and the union will still be here.
    Figure out how to work with both of them.
And once again you prove my point. I'll leave it at that because the "circuitous" description does fit.
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Re: NDP Makes More Promises to Union

Postby George+ » Feb 12th, 2013, 10:17 pm

Yes.
You keep spouting the same nonsense, again and again.
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