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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 1st, 2013, 4:14 pm

.What are the Liberals as a party going to do to change these things that disgust us all.


Sweet Bumpf-all. They don't are about the citizens of BC. They only care about the ChristyLiberals' families.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby Urbane » Jan 1st, 2013, 4:21 pm

    flamingfingers wrote:
    Sweet Bumpf-all. They don't are about the citizens of BC. They only care about the ChristyLiberals' families.
Having a one-track mind as you so clearly do isn't the way toward clear and objective thinking. And once again you prove the point that GF has made.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 1st, 2013, 4:22 pm

maple leaf wrote:And another thing is to do something about the government advertising for their political gains.The NDP are on record in support of that.



They'll just steal another coupla million dollars from a charity to pay for their advertising.
Even with the new taxes, the platform projects another four years of deficits if the Liberals are re-elected on Oct. 21 — $27.4 billion next year, falling to $21 billion by the fourth year of the mandate.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby steven lloyd » Jan 1st, 2013, 4:30 pm

Urbane wrote: Dix is appearing to take the high road which is smart considering his current standing in the polls but we've all seen the low road he takes when he thinks that no one is looking. It seems to me that many of us who have been very critical of the NDP have also been very critical of the Liberals but some (not you Steven but others) feed us the line that the NDP is as pure as the driven snow, that they don't engage in dirty tricks, that they don't engage in political spin, that they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, it just ain't so.

grammafreddy wrote: Yuppers - and that's my point. ALL political parties are guilty of exactly the same thing and they ALL are corrupt and they ALL have less than stellar people yanking the public's chain. To continually flog the NDP as better than sliced bread is just so much crapola. If they get in, they will be just as bad as the Liberals - maybe in different ways, but still just as bad. There are no good, honest politicians left at the moment in any party - provincially or federally.

I agree with both of you, and it is my position that nothing will ever change until we start voting governments out of power instead of into power. Every four years until the message starts getting through to somebody that we settle for nothing less than truly open, honest and accountable government. I don’t know what will happen under a NDP government but I do believe that it won’t be noticeably worse than what would happen if we re-elected this government – and they just might surprise us. If not, then we turf them again in four years, and the next government and the next government until the message gets across. I will certainly not vote Liberal. If nothing changes then nothing changes.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 1st, 2013, 4:30 pm

Urbane wrote:Having a one-track mind as you so clearly do isn't the way toward clear and objective thinking. And once again you prove the point that GF has made.


So Urb - you answer the question:
What are the Liberals as a party going to do to change these things that disgust us all.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby LoneWolf_53 » Jan 1st, 2013, 5:20 pm

What are the NDP going to do to address the issues that disgust all the rest of us, who don't allow blind hatred to consume us and leave us with a one track mind?
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby grammafreddy » Jan 1st, 2013, 5:59 pm

.What are the Liberals as a party going to do to change these things that disgust us all.

flamingfingers wrote:Sweet Bumpf-all. They don't are about the citizens of BC. They only care about the ChristyLiberals' families.


Well, I sure as hell don't get the impression the NDP care for much more than their own personal agendas, either, FF. But at least I am not so pig-headed as to think the NDP are gawd's answer to everything and anything and can do no wrong. They can and they do. To think otherwise and to keep on and on and on ad nauseum is ridiculous to the max.

No, the Liberals do not deserve to get elected again. They have done far too much damage and dug us too deeply into debt. They need to clean up their act and start being more transparent and more accountable for every little thing they do. But so do the NDP. They have left a very bad taste in a lot of BC voters' mouths from when they were in power before and while that may have been quite some time ago, memories of those disastrous years remain quite clear in some people's minds and a number of those old players in the shaft-BC game are still around and active in that party - and so nothing much has changed with the way they will govern if elected.

Your Sweet Bumpf-all applies to the NDP, too.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby maple leaf » Jan 1st, 2013, 6:32 pm

The only one track mind theme here is to bash the NDP and ignore the last 12 years
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby LoneWolf_53 » Jan 1st, 2013, 6:39 pm

I guess multiple personalities comes in useful when you run short of people who agree with you. :dyinglaughing:
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby maple leaf » Jan 1st, 2013, 6:48 pm

LoneWolf_53 wrote:I guess multiple personalities comes in useful when you run short of people who agree with you. :dyinglaughing:



You mean you and Rwede and fisher guy,wow 3 in one. :dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing:
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 1st, 2013, 6:53 pm

Jeezz! Just a simple question and nobody from the righty-tighty side can answer it?

What are the Liberals as a party going to do to change these things that disgust us all.


C'mon, focus. Give us an answer.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 1st, 2013, 7:09 pm

Fisher-Dude wrote:FF will never, ever in a million years admit she is wrong on this, so for the rest of you, read and enjoy the facts about the BC Fed writing NDP policy. Don't expect any relenting by the Head Casta-hag.


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NDP preparing its labour platform hand-in-glove with B.C. Federation of Labour

December 6, 2012

By MICHAEL SMYTH, The Province


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“It’s hardly a secret agenda,” says B.C. Fed boss Jim Sinclair after The Province reveals the close working relationship between the NDP and the unions over the party's labour policy. “We’ve been very open about the fact that we’re lobbying the party.”


Unions across B.C. are in “extensive” pre-election talks with the NDP, and the party’s labour platform is being developed with the B.C. Federation of Labour, according to a document obtained Thursday by The Province.

The labour organization also poured money and staff time into two recent by-elections, the document says, though the NDP candidates in both by-elections did not list the B.C. Federation of Labour as a donor in campaign-finance reports.

It all has the rival Liberals slamming “heavy handed” union influence in the NDP backrooms, and questioning whether the New Democrats properly disclosed campaign donations from the province’s largest labour organization.

“Adrian Dix tried to fool people that he was a moderate with a modest agenda,” Liberal campaign director Mike McDonald said of the NDP leader.

“He just got busted.”

The 11-page document was prepared for the executive of the B.C. Federation of Labour and distributed at its recent convention. It details the organization’s top priorities and its work with the NDP to achieve them.

“Labour platform is being developed with the B.C. NDP,” the document says.

“This includes extensive affiliate discussions on key issues including the B.C. Labour Code, Workers Compensation Board, trades training and employment standards.”

The document had the Liberals seeing red and on the attack.

“It spells out how big labour is working hand-in-hand with the NDP to develop their policies for them,” said Liberal cabinet minister Mary Polak.

She said business should worry about an NDP government bringing in pro-union labour laws and workplace regulations that will raise their costs and deflate investor confidence.

“It’s clear from the document that this is the same old NDP of the 1970s and 1990s and it could hurt our economy,” she said.

But NDP MLA Carole James said the party is simply listening to labour’s concerns, and the NDP will write its own policy platform, not the labour movement.

“They’re presenting their ideas to us and we’re listening,” she said, adding none of the labour movement’s “suggestions” have been officially adopted by the party yet.

“Only the Liberals would attack us for consulting with people. They’re fearmongering.”

B.C. Federation of Labour president Jim Sinclair said copies of the document were widely circulated at the organization’s recent convention.

“It’s hardly a secret agenda,” he said. “We’ve been very open about the fact that we’re lobbying the party.”

But Polak disagreed.

“Adrian Dix has been saying he’s friendly to business, but business is not writing the NDP election platform — big labour is,” she said.

The document says the B.C. Federation of Labour wants an overhaul of the Labour Code. The organization has already said it wants an NDP government to scrap the secret-ballot rule for certifying a union, requiring a majority of workers to simply sign a union card instead.

The group also wants a “total review” of the Workers Compensation Board, and “fair” apprenticeship rules and employment standards affecting union and non-union workers alike.

Under the heading “Ensuring the NDP Wins in 2013”, the document calls for “creating opportunities for Adrian/NDP to directly engage members. We have to publicly support Adrian/NDP with our members, instil confidence in his leadership.”

On the two recent by-elections — both won by the NDP — the document details work and donations: “The Federation co-ordinated a fundraising drive that raised $120,000 for the by-elections. In addition, staff worked full-time organizing volunteers.”

Yet the campaign-finance reports disclosed by winning NDP candidate Joe Trasolini and Gwen O’Mahony did not list the B.C. Federation of Labour as donors of money or staff.

“It doesn’t seem right,” said Polak, adding the donations should be reviewed.

But NDP provincial secretary Jan O’Brien said the money raised by the Federation was donated to the NDP head office, properly disclosed, and then transferred to the byelection campaigns.

And she said Federation staff did not work on the byelection campaigns directly, so no public disclosure was required — an explanation Polak found “disingenuous.”

The NDP, meanwhile, pointed out that McDonald (the Liberal campaign director) has scheduled a “stakeholder meeting” in the boardroom of the B.C. Business Council next week.

“That shouldn’t surprise anyone,” said Sinclair. “At least we’re being open about our work with the NDP.”

You can read the B.C. Federation of Labour document in its entirety at http://www.theprovince.com.


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Yeppers. No chance in hell would the Casta-hag admit that the BC Fed is lobbying the NDP and writing their platform. That doesn't change the fact that this is a huge conflict of interest for Dix to be involved as the potential employer of the unions and also receiving millions in kickbacks through BC Fed support. Dix gives unions a raise, union dues go up, donations to the NDP go up. Total fraud, IMO. Time to disband public sector unions and/or forbid the laundering of union dues into the NDP bank account.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 1st, 2013, 7:11 pm

^^Idiot post alert^^

You have been shot all to rat *bleep* on this post. Is that the best you can do is to keep reposting your epic FAIL??

Typical ChristyLieberal shill... Repeat the lie, rinse and repeat the lie.

Doesn't do anything anymore. Go pound sand.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby logicalview » Jan 1st, 2013, 7:29 pm

flamingfingers wrote:^^Idiot post alert^^


No one needs to put this as a disclaimer on your posts. It's common knowledge.
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Re: Christy shares her thoughts...

Postby maple leaf » Jan 1st, 2013, 7:30 pm

Fisher-Dude wrote:the BC Fed is lobbying the NDP and writing their platform. That doesn't change the fact that this is a huge conflict of interest for Dix to be involved as the potential employer of the unions and also receiving millions in kickbacks through BC Fed support. Dix gives unions a raise, union dues go up, donations to the NDP go up. Total fraud, IMO. Time to disband public sector unions and/or forbid the laundering of union dues into the NDP bank account.


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