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Dictatorship in USA

Postby Rosemary1 » Jan 25th, 2017, 7:31 pm

North Koreas has its Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un who was not democratically elected.

Judging by what Trump is doing and plans to do over the next two weeks, the USA now has its own supreme leader by the name Donald J. Trump . Only difference is that he was democratically elected….. Bizarre and astounding.

No wonder USA has just been downgraded to a democracy with a 'flawed democracy'

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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby Hassel99 » Jan 25th, 2017, 7:35 pm

Rosemary1 wrote:North Koreas has its Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un who was not democratically elected.

Judging by what Trump is doing and plans to do over the next two weeks, the USA now has its own supreme leader by the name Donald J. Trump . Only difference is that he was democratically elected….. Bizarre and astounding.

No wonder USA has just been downgraded to a democracy with a 'flawed democracy'



This type of hyperbole and sensationalism is not helpful.

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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby Queen K » Jan 25th, 2017, 8:48 pm

Authoritarianism 101:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/ ... index.html

Get your news from the President!

Washington (CNN)The chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee is asking Americans to trust the information they get from the President over the news produced by the media.

Republican Rep. Lamar Smith saluted President Donald Trump from the floor of the House on Tuesday evening, rattling off his first-week accomplishments but saying Trump is not getting the press coverage he deserves.
"The national liberal media won't print that, or air it or post it," Smith said. "Better to get your news directly from the President. In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth."
Trump has been called out for highlighting falsehoods and conspiracy theories during his political career and has repeatedly attacked the mainstream press as pushing "fake news."
The most recent flare-up came this week when Trump and his aides claimed that 3 to 5 million people voted illegally in the 2016 election, an allegation that is not supported by any evidence.
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby Queen K » Jan 26th, 2017, 8:26 pm

What America can learn from India's creation of a cashless society.

Really, it's all about the undocument, illegal aliens living in the USA. What America can do to learn from what India did to bring undocumented babies into their tax sphere. No more people living in shadows, they use retina scans and everything!

Here read this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inn ... s-society/

<snip>

Here's what America can learn from apparently:

India has just introduced another innovation called India Stack. This is a series of secured and connected systems that allow people to store and share personal data such as addresses, bank statements, medical records, employment records and tax filings, and it enables the digital signing of documents. The user controls what information is shared and with whom, and electronic signature occurs through biometric authentication.

Take the example of opening a mobile-phone account. It is cumbersome everywhere, because the telecom carriers need to verify the user’s identity and credit history. In India, it often took days to produce all the documents that the government required. With the new “know-your-customer” procedures that are part of India Stack, all that is needed is a thumb print or retina scan, and an account can be opened within minutes. The same can be done for medical records. Imagine being able to share these with doctors and clinics as and when necessary. This is surely possible for us in the United States, but we aren’t doing it because no trusted central authority has stepped up to the task.

<snip> There's lots more in this article worth reading, just click on the link.

So there you have it, the MARK of the BEAST, no man can buy or sell with out the number and an Eastern country has developed it. The best part? Any dictator can adopt it. Flag a person's number and that person can no longer make transactions, period.

Cash is gone. Dictatorship is in. K_teela is right: Fascism is in.
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby K_teela » Jan 26th, 2017, 8:49 pm

I don't think calling it a Dictatorship is the right word...but it's definitely heading into the direction of fascism.

From https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.



I actually think quite a few posters on these forums actually want a fascist government...but once you called it 'fascism' they get offended. Kind of how racists don't like being called racists :D

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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby Queen K » Jan 26th, 2017, 8:57 pm

One can check off that list easily with the rise of Donald Trump. So many examples in the first five days.

Labour Power is one we have not seen hit: yet.

But I suspect when we see jobs come back to America, the labour laws will be vastly weakened and labour organizers will end up dead in ditches. As they are in Mexico. In fact, the populace will be so grateful to their leader for bringing back jobs, at any cost, that labour leaders will be likened to old school communists and anything done to them will be cheered.
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby my5cents » Jan 26th, 2017, 9:54 pm

Queen K wrote:One can check off that list easily with the rise of Donald Trump. So many examples in the first five days.

Labour Power is one we have not seen hit: yet.

But I suspect when we see jobs come back to America, the labour laws will be vastly weakened and labour organizers will end up dead in ditches. As they are in Mexico. In fact, the populace will be so grateful to their leader for bringing back jobs, at any cost, that labour leaders will be likened to old school communists and anything done to them will be cheered.

From 1960 to 2000 the percentage of union workers in the USA fell from 30% to 13%, in 2013 it was 11.3%
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 27th, 2017, 9:31 am

my5cents wrote:From 1960 to 2000 the percentage of union workers in the USA fell from 30% to 13%, in 2013 it was 11.3%


So you are saying Kennedy, Carter, Clinton and Obama were a fascists? Interesting.
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 27th, 2017, 9:33 am

K_teela wrote:I don't think calling it a Dictatorship is the right word...but it's definitely heading into the direction of fascism.


One thing I've found reading these forums, you can call just about anybody a fascist if you spin the facts hard enough. I honestly think a lot of posters here do a great job completely inventing truths about both sides, right and left, but when you call them liars, they get offended. Kind of like how fear-mongers don't like being called fear-mongers. :D
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby my5cents » Jan 27th, 2017, 9:35 am

The Green Barbarian wrote:So you are saying Kennedy, Carter, Clinton and Obama were a fascists? Interesting.

My ex-wife used to say "so you are saying..."
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 27th, 2017, 9:38 am

my5cents wrote:My ex-wife used to say "so you are saying..."


:biggrin: :130: Touche!
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby Rwede » Jan 27th, 2017, 9:42 am

Queen K wrote:But I suspect when we see jobs come back to America, the labour laws will be vastly weakened and labour organizers will end up dead in ditches.



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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 27th, 2017, 10:01 am

Queen K wrote:
But I suspect when we see jobs come back to America, the labour laws will be vastly weakened and labour organizers will end up dead in ditches.
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby ferri » Jan 27th, 2017, 10:17 am

*Uh hum. Topic please, get on it!
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Re: Dictatorship in USA

Postby averagejoe » Jan 27th, 2017, 2:06 pm

This is how the leftist/Marxist/sjw's/liberal world uses censorship to turn America into a Soviet America dictatorship!
Label conservatives neo-nazi's and fascists and then release their names to the public...nice tactic!

Email Threatens to Release Names of CU-Boulder Students Attending Milo Speech

“We know who you are, tonight we will know your faces,” the email threatened those who planned to hear the controversial alt-right provocateur. “The identities of attendees will be released to the public on a list of known Neo-Nazi sympathizers. We do not tolerate fascists.”

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