Who is John Horgan?

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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Veovis » Mar 15th, 2017, 10:09 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Look at alberta . That's what ndp gets u


The funny thing is some people think that Alberta is doing great right now.

John so far just says what he thinks people want to hear where he is at that moment. Dix used that strategy as well and did poorly, he is also using the strategy of no platform or comparable budget to table.

These are losing strategies as you cannot please everyone, you need to have a set strategy and platform and spending plan and you need to show people you will be better than the current group.

So far John is nothing of those electable things, but he will say Leap manifesto is bad, but that we should have a leap manifesto. Always on the fence.....the way no principled groups often speak.

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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 15th, 2017, 11:38 pm

Basically most of us don't want to remember his name as a former premier . Let's hope he does not get to that level of crook
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Leifer » Mar 15th, 2017, 11:42 pm

It seems like an impossible knife edge for Horgan to walk.
Trying to keep the enviros and private/public unions happy. :200:

Some people have dubbed him "Say anything John" due to his apparent policy flip flopping when addressing these two very different groups. "Kinder Morgan = bad.....but Kinder Morgan jobs = good". "Site C = Bad.....but site C jobs = good".

I don't envy him....but the polls do have him currently in the lead (for what they are worth).
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Veovis » Mar 15th, 2017, 11:45 pm

Leifer wrote:It seems like an impossible knife edge for Horgan to walk.
Trying to keep the enviros and private/public unions happy. :200:

Some people have dubbed him "Say anything John" due to his apparent policy flip flopping when addressing these two very different groups. "Kinder Morgan = bad.....but Kinder Morgan jobs = good". "Site C = Bad.....but site C jobs = good".

I don't envy him....but the polls do have him currently in the lead (for what they are worth).


Don't flip flop is the simple answer. Put out a full budget and platform and stick to it.

The problem is they have too many radical members and he will be stabbed in the back so fast just like Mulcair in the federal election, heck that was mid election they started infighting.

They need to clean house and become a party, the fact they won't leaves us without a choice.

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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 15th, 2017, 11:47 pm

What would it take for chancouvwr to wake up and become a part of western Canada .
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby madmudder » Mar 16th, 2017, 5:44 am

Jflem1983 wrote:Look at alberta . That's what ndp gets u


I didn't know the NDP control the oil market and the oil sands. :cuss: Morons
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 16th, 2017, 7:47 am

With a bit of luck they won't control anything in canada real soon
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 16th, 2017, 7:57 am

madmudder wrote: :cuss: Morons


when it comes to a discussion about the NDP, on this point you and I can agree.
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Rwede » Mar 16th, 2017, 9:15 am

Jflem1983 wrote:Isn't he some leap manifesto clown


flamingfingers wrote:^No. And if you had taken the opportunity to inform yourself, you wouldn't need to ask this useless question.


I don't think you're up to date on Horgan's Leap Manifesto position, FF.

You should go in eyes wide open and know what your party's leader stands for:

http://cc4bc.ca/john-horgan-cant-make-up-his-mind/
"I don't even disagree with the bulk of what's in the Leap Manifesto. I'll put forward my Leap Manifesto in the next election." - John Horgan, 2017.

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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 16th, 2017, 9:19 am

Rwede wrote:
I don't think you're up to date on Horgan's Leap Manifesto position, FF.

You should go in eyes wide open and know what your party's leader stands for:

http://cc4bc.ca/john-horgan-cant-make-up-his-mind/


Wait though, that was a "political ad". Apparently in political ads, if Horgan blatantly says that he supports the Leap Manifesto, then it doesn't count.
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby flamingfingers » Mar 16th, 2017, 11:00 am

John Horgan:

It speaks to the dark money invading B.C. politics. I wasn’t in Edmonton, where the federal NDP recommended the party talk about [Leap] over the next couple years. And as I said the next day, it’s not for me. They’re deliberately obscuring the record.


March 14, 2017 interview with Maclean's magazine. Link in first post if you bothered to read it (which you didn't.)
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Rwede » Mar 16th, 2017, 2:13 pm

Horgan just said he likes the Leap, and he's even developing his own.

Sorry FF, but you can't suck and blow at the same time.
"I don't even disagree with the bulk of what's in the Leap Manifesto. I'll put forward my Leap Manifesto in the next election." - John Horgan, 2017.

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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Veovis » Mar 16th, 2017, 2:22 pm

The catch is, I don't give a crap about John Horgans life, nor that of Christy Clarks. Just don't care who they are in the least.

I care what they will do.

So far the liberals have shown what they will do and so far so has Horgan, except Horgan so far is just noise and nothing real, just like the Dix campaign.

He can be better, or be the opposition.
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby flamingfingers » Mar 16th, 2017, 3:14 pm

Horgan just said he likes the Leap, and he's even developing his own.


When did he say that? Paste a link c/w the date.
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Re: Who is John Horgan?

Postby Veovis » Mar 16th, 2017, 4:21 pm

http://cc4bc.ca/john-horgan-cant-make-up-his-mind/

Where he says it.

ad or not they are his words. So he is in, out, in, out. Sounds a lot like Dix last time, whatever crowd he is around those are his morals for the day.

Not electable when acting like that.
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