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Police asking Public for info.?

Postby 60-YEARS-in-Ktown » Jun 8th, 2017, 8:14 pm

I just read about a truck ditched over a cliff, ended up in the lake.
Found by Police on May 29th.
Today, around 10 days later, they ask if anyone has information.

Is it just me, or would it maybe be better to ask closer to the time this happened..?
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Iamsomeone » Jun 8th, 2017, 8:38 pm

Well originally I thought the same as you.

Then I thought about it some more and reread the story.

This is probably a case of Castanet writing a story around a submitted photo.

Castanet got the photo, then contacted the RCMP for news on the truck. They were told it was a stolen vehicle and would be removed in due time.

Castanet then added the standard public service message to their news story - Any one with information is asked to contact police.

Maybe I'm giving more credit than due with the punctuation in the story but I don't see quotes around the info message.

That makes me think Castanet and other news outlets add that automatically to bulk up their story.

I doubt it's the RCMP suddenly looking for help (although all info is welcome).

https://www.castanet.net/news/West-Kelo ... foot-cliff

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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby WalterWhite » Jun 8th, 2017, 8:49 pm

I think you hit the nail on the head Iam. The days of actual news reporting are long gone. With the recent elimination of the RCMP media liaison position (I think that was the term used), little to no information is forwarded to news organizations. They really do rely heavily on public input. The fact that the large majority of the general population has the ability to photograph, edit, write some quick copy and upload to the internet and any social media platform you can imagine, the transfer of information has never been faster or more readily available. The problem, is it's not without bias of the person submitting, and now it reaches to the bias of the news organization - nothing of which was a better display than the recent coverage of the US elections by the major news organizations. No longer do reporters "get wind of a story" and proceed to track it down with the determination of a bloodhound. Why would they when they can cruise Facebook, Instagram and a myriad of other social media sites from the comfort of their living room couch while sitting in their underwear (or maybe that's just me).

ETA: Here's a great example. On scene reporting - just need a cell phone and voila - you're a reporter:
https://www.facebook.com/Castanet.net/v ... 771045514/
The same thing was recently done with a "reporter" up in a helicopter to survey flood damage from above - shot entirely on a cell phone. Sorry, but that's not journalism.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Fancy » Jun 9th, 2017, 6:35 am

I couldn't find a press release on this incident (doesn't mean there isn't one though) so I expect Iamsomeone has the right idea.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby onestop67 » Jun 9th, 2017, 8:23 am

60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote:I just read about a truck ditched over a cliff, ended up in the lake.
Found by Police on May 29th.
Today, around 10 days later, they ask if anyone has information.

Is it just me, or would it maybe be better to ask closer to the time this happened..?
What are you forum members thinking ?


I read this on another site. The Coppers found it on the 29th. But with all the lake issues (high water), they had to wait to get it out.

That took a few days. So they finally got it out and ran the VIN and it was stolen (obviously).

Now they're asking if anyone saw anything. Like a couple kids pushing a truck off Westside Road? lol
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby kgcayenne » Jun 9th, 2017, 9:18 am

Fancy wrote:I couldn't find a press release on this incident (doesn't mean there isn't one though) so I expect Iamsomeone has the right idea.


If there were a press release on every stolen/abandoned vehicle incident, I think we would be quite surprised at the subsequent information overload. Perhaps an initial investigation met a dead-end, hence the appeal for public info.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby gman313 » Jun 9th, 2017, 10:26 am

60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote:I just read about a truck ditched over a cliff, ended up in the lake.
Found by Police on May 29th.
Today, around 10 days later, they ask if anyone has information.

Is it just me, or would it maybe be better to ask closer to the time this happened..?
What are you forum members thinking ?


A lot of times with investigations police will quietly follow up on their leads before going to the public. Why? Because if the idiot who stole the truck thinks he got away with it he is more likely to not hide, not leave town, and even be dumb enough to brag to his buddies. Better chance of catching someone if they don't think they are being investigated.

Go public and the guilty party knows he is actively being sought, shuts up and goes into hiding.

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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Graham Adder » Jun 9th, 2017, 11:34 am

This is, unfortunately typical.
It's so typical, that I truly question the value of our policing forces these days.
Two times my vehicle has been stolen.
Two times it was not found by the RCMP
It's not that hard to do.
I have done it twice now in my spare time.

This is just another case that will go into this forum as another "unwarranted" RCMP bashing thread, and will inevitably be shut down on account of the passion expressed by those that are offended by how unresponsive, inactive and often seemingly useless our current policing system works (or doesn't work).

It's a shame that the two sides have such a cavernous reach between them.
As one not to support our current system, I generally get shut down for being negative and my message goes to the waste bin. The fact of the matter is that "my side" should be heard. There are very just reasons for my discontent, yet if you support the RCMP, you likely don't absorb the message nor read it for that matter.
There are valid concerns voices through discontent and anger, but it takes open minds, open hearts and open policies to address them accordingly.
To date, this has not happened because of the cavern.
Someone with good bridge design skills needs to close the gap, get us all gathered to the same table, and give those with tender ears a filter, so they don't give in to their weakness around strong language or strong voices and leave the table.
It takes work and fortitude to sit at a table bordered with people that have differing opinions on matter you have great passion toward.
It takes work.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Leifer » Jun 9th, 2017, 2:19 pm

Sadly....probably sits fairly low in priority compared to assaults, unsolved murders, people driving like idiots and smearing themselves across the highway....the list goes on.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby phasyluck » Jun 9th, 2017, 2:30 pm

Its a Dodge big surprise!! I found three stolen Dodge products in three days walking my dog up Postil up around the Copper loop and old mud bogs. Reported them all and I felt like I might become a suspect due to the odd frequency, this is super common. I'm sure the police will look very close to home for a start.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby 60-YEARS-in-Ktown » Jun 9th, 2017, 4:07 pm

I always thought, its easier to remember something you saw 2 days ago, than 10 days ago...
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Anonymous123 » Jun 9th, 2017, 4:11 pm

If I owned a Dodge I'd be tempted to ditch it too.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Graham Adder » Jun 9th, 2017, 4:14 pm

kgcayenne wrote:If there were a press release on every stolen/abandoned vehicle incident, I think we would be quite surprised at the subsequent information overload.


on average 3 vehicles per night are stolen within Kelowna city limits
that's what I was told when I pushed for answers regarding my stolen vehicle
that was from a watch commander with the Kelowna RCMP
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Graham Adder » Jun 9th, 2017, 4:17 pm

gman313 wrote:
A lot of times with investigations police will quietly follow up on their leads before going to the public. Why? Because if the idiot who stole the truck thinks he got away with it he is more likely to not hide, not leave town, and even be dumb enough to brag to his buddies. Better chance of catching someone if they don't think they are being investigated.

Go public and the guilty party knows he is actively being sought, shuts up and goes into hiding.

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That sounds like ogogrow to me.
The cops don't keep mum so the bandits suspect nothing.
Nice cartoon imagery though.

The truth is, they drop the ball as soon as another one enters the playing field.
The RCMP are more easily distracted than a turdball terrier.
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Re: Police asking Public for info.?

Postby Graham Adder » Jun 9th, 2017, 4:25 pm

Leifer wrote:Limited resource our police force. We could always decided to pony up more Tax dollars each year and double the size of the force.
I am game. :up:


The limited resource is police that are passionate about being the change.
Too many are now in the force for the wrong reasons.
- I joined because my dad was a cop and his dad before him was cop.
- I joined because the benefits are good, the pay is exceptional and I get to travel.
- I joined to advance my career and heed the benefits upon early retirement.
- I joined to be a part of a brotherhood, get in on the good stuff and enter the annual fishing derby with my bottle of Jack, my bag of Mary and a pocket full of gummy worms.

Rarely do people choose careers in Law Enfarcement on account of a passion for doing the right thing.

I'm not game for increasing taxes to buy more plasti-cops.
Instead, how about we demand change in their procedures, implementing ones that fetch results. We fire the ones that don't work out, and jail the ones that break the rules. make those who wish to stay on accountable for their action(s) as well as their inaction(s).

If I ran a crew of workers that failed as miserably as this bunch, I'd fore the lot and start fresh.
There are plenty of people out there wanting to do good work. Why keep this organization employed if they don't live up to expectations?

Fire 'em all. Hire all new.
Fresh is better.
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