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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby maryjane48 » Jul 17th, 2017, 11:01 pm

how do you know he never faught a fire ? been following him around for last 40 years ? where was your critique of clark who the thread is about incase english isnt your strong suit , over wearing a hard hat ? sexism ? hypocritical ? so biased cant see the forest for the trees ? . who you think all them folks who are burnt out thier homes or having spend weeks will be voting for when the grumbling by the victims of fires are already are starting to wonder why so little was done in the beggining of this ?


we all know the saying dont count your chickens etc etc . the dynamic in this province is going to change whether we like it or not . large disasters can and do have that effect
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby hobbyguy » Jul 18th, 2017, 12:39 am

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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby flamingfingers » Jul 18th, 2017, 2:33 am

A more pointed critique emerged Thursday from Kevin Falcon, the second-place finisher to Clark in the 2011 leadership race. In a remarkably candid interview with Rob Shaw of The Vancouver Sun, Falcon explained why the party got “hammered” (as he put it) in Metro Vancouver and the Lower Mainland.

He cited lack of progress on transportation projects that would have benefited the entire region and blamed the government for picking an ill-advised fight with Metro Vancouver mayors. Plus there was the failure to deal with the festering controversy over campaign finances.

“I think the public recognized that B.C.’s economy is the envy of the nation, I just don’t think it was enough,” explained Falcon.

“I think the perceived ethical issues, the campaign finance issues that were never really addressed, I think that really gnawed away at people, and it bothered them and that was reflected in a negative vote.”

Falcon expressed sympathy for the woman who defeated him for the leadership — “I feel bad for the premier” — facing, as she does, a precarious balance of power in the legislature that may or may not go in her favour.

But he also faulted the Liberals for engaging in “just a little too much politics and not quite enough policy initiative,” he said. On that score, who could he be thinking of other than Clark herself?

So while the premier has so far refused to acknowledge any failings on her part in the recent setback of a campaign, it would appear that her once and perhaps future rival is not going to let her escape that easily
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Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby maryjane48 » Jul 18th, 2017, 10:53 am

did clark ever pay back the 150 million for the useless courtcase ? no ? disgusting :smt045
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby hobbyguy » Jul 18th, 2017, 11:25 am

Things to blame Christy Clark for:

http://www.rbc.com/economics/economic-reports/pdf/provincial-forecasts/prov_fiscal.pdf

1. Sound provincial finances http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/what-provinces-can-learn-from-b-c-s-sound-finances/
2. Top economic performance in Canada, world class - second only to Ireland http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/economy.aspx
3. Top employment growth in Canada, world class - tied with Denmark for first place
4. The lowest provincial unemployment rate
5. World class education system, best in Canada http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/education.aspx
6. World class health care, best in Canada, ranked 3rd in the world http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/health.aspx
7. So-so on income inequality, but a passing grade http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/society/income-inequality.aspx
8. Number of people on welfare: NDP 1998-99 - 275,439, BC Liberals 2013-14 176,944 http://www.caledoninst.org/Publications/PDF/1062ENG.pdf
9. BC is Canada's most economically diverse province http://exportwise.ca/vision-and-luck-why-b-c-is-canadas-most-diverse-economy/
10. The city of Vancouver NDP mayor did not building social housing with social housing funding, but built bicycle paths. That said, the provincial government does not have a good record on social housing: http://www.sparc.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/unpackingthehousingnumbers.pdf - but that is likely in part due to observing lower mainland mayors consistently violating their own social housing policies, and expecting the province to then pick up the tab. Nobody has clean hands in that mess.

8/10 on significant issues ain't bad. It will be interesting to see if the peanut chucking NDP can come even close.
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby flamingfingers » Jul 18th, 2017, 12:30 pm

Still:

Fassbender was blunt: “She lost it for us. Period. End of story.”


That's HER OWN PARTY saying it!!
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby hobbyguy » Jul 18th, 2017, 12:49 pm

So what?

Political silliness. It arises when people get complacent.

What did make a difference? NDP mayors in the lower constantly messing things up and then blaming the provincial government and premier Clark. Notice the NDP ONLY did well in Vancouver-Victoria complex. And surprise, constantly telling folks the NDP would solve ALL their problems - many of which were created by NDP mayors.

The folks in the lower mainland voted against more money for Translink. So the doofus lower mainland mayors, who control Translink and many other things (like social housing etc.) want the rest of us to pay for their transit system and social housing while they fritter money away on bicycle paths and "becoming the greenest city in the world" nonsense.

Yup, the Liberals messed up on the bridge tolls. People in Vancouver don't wanna pay for their own stuff - they are used to peanut chucker mayors who always want more and more from everybody else, the provincial government, the federal government.

Interesting that the Socreds paid little or no price for the Coquihalla tolls...

So yup, the Liberals and premier Clark messed up on the bridge tolls... it allowed the NDP to lie about the bridge tolls going away, and hand the NDP mayors a blank cheque to hose the great unwashed with MORE bridge tolls and mobility pricing.

But then, did premier Clark expect that the NDP would put forward such a "big lie" campaign? Maybe not - but she should have anticipated that sort of sleazy tactic from the NDP.
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby maryjane48 » Jul 18th, 2017, 12:54 pm

lol um where do the majority of people in bc live ? thats how tax works we all pay for the greater good . it isnt just vancouver going green lots of countries are now onboard . your going to be left behind holding a can of oil wondering where you went wrong . your choice though
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby flamingfingers » Jul 18th, 2017, 1:02 pm

Bill Tielman:

Ironically, however, some New Democrats and media are wondering if the B.C. Liberal throne speech is the most brilliant strategy ever concocted.

I totally disagree, unless you think a completely bat guano crazy plan is a good idea.


No, this is simply Clark’s last desperate stand, shamelessly renouncing the fiscal conservative beliefs that kept her party in office.

Instead, Clark will self-centredly demolish the legacy of ex-premier Gordon Campbell and the entire B.C. Liberal government of the past 16 years, leaving the party looking desperate, unprincipled and adrift.

Bon voyage!
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby Merry » Jul 18th, 2017, 1:06 pm

Whatever we may, or may not, think of Christy Clark, the fact is that she's political history now (or will be very soon). The NDP/Greens are in power, and Christy will soon be replaced as Leader of the Liberals. So it's time to forget about her and move on.

If de Jong becomes Liberal Leader (which he might) the Libs will become even more heartless and less empathetic than they are now. And if and when that happens, those who currently hate Christy might begin to see her in a new light.
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby mikest2 » Jul 18th, 2017, 1:19 pm

flamingfingers wrote:Vaughn Palmer|:

Ironically, however, some New Democrats and media are wondering if the B.C. Liberal throne speech is the most brilliant strategy ever concocted.

I totally disagree, unless you think a completely bat guano crazy plan is a good idea.


No, this is simply Clark’s last desperate stand, shamelessly renouncing the fiscal conservative beliefs that kept her party in office.

Instead, Clark will self-centredly demolish the legacy of ex-premier Gordon Campbell and the entire B.C. Liberal government of the past 16 years, leaving the party looking desperate, unprincipled and adrift.

Bon voyage!


Vaughn Palmer ?

I think not, how about Bill Tieleman from Pravda ? (Tyee)

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/06/27/C ... d=noscript
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby flamingfingers » Jul 18th, 2017, 1:25 pm

Oops, sorry, it was included in a Palmer twitter.

Correction made.
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Re: Blame Christy Clark!

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jul 18th, 2017, 1:26 pm

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