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Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 20th, 2018, 12:47 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/219312 ... fish-farms
According to this article, nobody asked NDP MP Fin Donnelly for a comment. I just received a letter from Fin in which he stated in part, "Although Bill C-228 was defeated, I have not given up the fight to #SaveWildSalmon. Six years after habitat provisions of the federal Fisheries Act were gutted by the Conservatives, the Liberals have finaly restored protection for all fish across Canada. I believe these protections should have been restored immediately following the last election, however I welcome this legislation.

However, the bill does not address the conflicting mandates which Commissioner Cohen identified of conserving wild salmon while promoting harmful salmon farming practices. I will be working to amend this when it comes to committee."

Thank goodness somebody's working to get those Atlantic salmon sea-pens out of B.C.

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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 20th, 2018, 12:49 pm

Cactusflower wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/219312/Ban-ocean-fish-farms
According to this article, nobody asked NDP MP Fin Donnelly for a comment. I just received a letter from Fin in which he stated in part, "Although Bill C-228 was defeated, I have not given up the fight to #SaveWildSalmon. Six years after habitat provisions of the federal Fisheries Act were gutted by the Conservatives, the Liberals have finaly restored protection for all fish across Canada. I believe these protections should have been restored immediately following the last election, however I welcome this legislation.

However, the bill does not address the conflicting mandates which Commissioner Cohen identified of conserving wild salmon while promoting harmful salmon farming practices. I will be working to amend this when it comes to committee."

Thank goodness somebody's working to get those Atlantic salmon sea-pens out of B.C.


Is he actually doing this though? Do you trust this guy after he blatantly lied about other issues? I sure don't. But of course, he's NDP, so no one can trust those bozos.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 20th, 2018, 5:07 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Cactusflower wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/219312/Ban-ocean-fish-farms
According to this article, nobody asked NDP MP Fin Donnelly for a comment. I just received a letter from Fin in which he stated in part, "Although Bill C-228 was defeated, I have not given up the fight to #SaveWildSalmon. Six years after habitat provisions of the federal Fisheries Act were gutted by the Conservatives, the Liberals have finaly restored protection for all fish across Canada. I believe these protections should have been restored immediately following the last election, however I welcome this legislation.

However, the bill does not address the conflicting mandates which Commissioner Cohen identified of conserving wild salmon while promoting harmful salmon farming practices. I will be working to amend this when it comes to committee."

Thank goodness somebody's working to get those Atlantic salmon sea-pens out of B.C.


Is he actually doing this though? Do you trust this guy after he blatantly lied about other issues? I sure don't. But of course, he's NDP, so no one can trust those bozos.


What 'other issues' did he lie about? Now, GB, I expect links just as you expect links from me about a news article I read several years ago concerning the Burnaby refinery and Cherry Point, WA.

Have to admit that I haven't found that particular news item, but I did find one that you might find interesting. You have to scroll down to the 7th paragraph of the letter to find the part that relates to KM and the Burnaby refinery.
http://whatcomwatch.org/index.php/artic ... dered-eis/
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 20th, 2018, 6:06 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Cactusflower wrote:
What 'other issues' did he lie about?


That brainless *bleep* lied about the application for that Syrian kid. But you already know that. How that idiot is still an MP is a testament to just how dumb the voters are in Port Moody Coquitlam. The NDP just plain sucks.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2015/09/shoul ... mp-resign/

Where are the links to your lie about the Burnaby refinery? Oh right...


Warren Kinsella? Is he Patrick Kinsella's brother? [icon_lol2.gif] (Don't get me started!)

If you could read more than a few words, you would have seen the link I provided for you. The 7th paragraph begins, "Additionally, in December 2013......."
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby common_sense_guy » Feb 21st, 2018, 10:01 am

Thank goodness somebody's working to get those Atlantic salmon sea-pens out of B..C.

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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby alfred2 » Feb 21st, 2018, 12:37 pm

Get rid of fish farms in ocean, get the cities that dump their raw sewage in the ocean. How anyone can eat any of the sea food that lives in that sewage is beyond any common sense. Yet they *bleep* and cry about a pipeline that does not go into the sea. [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif]
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 21st, 2018, 4:38 pm

Maybe the BC NDP plan to close down the fish farms and open up more troll farms.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 21st, 2018, 4:50 pm

OH....He11....ban them all! Period. No more fish farms, no more commercial fishing, no more crabbing, oysters, prawns, shrimp, or any other sea-life for 10 years. Stop them all, right now and let them recover naturally. Shut it all down. Let the natives have their fish for ceremonial purposes, but they have to catch them using their aboriginal methods, and if/when they get caught violating those conditions, cancel their rights for the whole tribe.
Let a few sports fishers have some fun with limited permits purchased, to maintain tourism, but NO commercial fishing at all, for anyone.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:28 pm

alfred2 wrote:Get rid of fish farms in ocean, get the cities that dump their raw sewage in the ocean. How anyone can eat any of the sea food that lives in that sewage is beyond any common sense. Yet they *bleep* and cry about a pipeline that does not go into the sea. [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif]


Stop laughing and read what you just wrote. A pipeline that doesn't go into the sea? What is KM/TM going to do with the dilbit once it reaches Burnaby......just pump it all over the neighbourhood, just like what happened in 2007 when somebody punched a hole in the pipe with a backhoe? Here's a short lesson on the export of bitumen: It is mixed with a diluent and sent by pipeline to tidewater, where it is pumped into an oil tanker and shipped to the country that ordered it. Sheesh!
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Urbane » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:32 pm

    Cactusflower wrote:Stop laughing and read what you just wrote. A pipeline that doesn't go into the sea? What is KM/TM going to do with the dilbit once it reaches Burnaby......just pump it all over the neighbourhood, just like what happened in 2007 when somebody punched a hole in the pipe with a backhoe? Here's a short lesson on the export of bitumen: It is mixed with a diluent and sent by pipeline to tidewater, where it is pumped into an oil tanker and shipped to the country that ordered it. Sheesh!
Alfred is correct and you are wrong. The pipeline connects directly to each ship. It does not go into the sea.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby flamingfingers » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:38 pm

Fish farms need to be taken out of West Coast waters and relocated on land with proper facilities and oversight to ensure health of the farmed salmon.

Conservation and enhancement of our native stocks should be of prime importance.
Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?

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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:48 pm

flamingfingers wrote:Fish farms need to be taken out of West Coast waters and relocated on land with proper facilities and oversight to ensure health of the farmed salmon.

Conservation and enhancement of our native stocks should be of prime importance.


Then you had best be talking to Alaska "salmon ranchers" and the Russian "salmon ranchers" about strip mining the north Pacific for biomass, and climbing all over the City of Richmond and the "green" city of Vancouver about their degradation and pollution of the critical estuary habitat.

Those two things cause 1,000 times more damage.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:49 pm

Urbane wrote:
    Cactusflower wrote:Stop laughing and read what you just wrote. A pipeline that doesn't go into the sea? What is KM/TM going to do with the dilbit once it reaches Burnaby......just pump it all over the neighbourhood, just like what happened in 2007 when somebody punched a hole in the pipe with a backhoe? Here's a short lesson on the export of bitumen: It is mixed with a diluent and sent by pipeline to tidewater, where it is pumped into an oil tanker and shipped to the country that ordered it. Sheesh!
Alfred is correct and you are wrong. The pipeline connects directly to each ship. It does not go into the sea.


Don't be silly, Urb. And yes, FF, you're correct. I should have stressed the fact that the salmon farms should be moved out of the water and onto land-based operations.
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby Snman » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:52 pm

Let's wipe the slate clean. Ban oceans, fish, and farms. That's the ticket, that's the ticket!!
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Re: Ban ocean fish farms?

Postby flamingfingers » Feb 21st, 2018, 6:54 pm

Snman wrote:Let's wipe the slate clean. Ban oceans, fish, and farms. That's the ticket, that's the ticket!!


You need to cut down your ingestion of Silly Pills!!
Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?

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