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Re: Venezuela

Postby Verum » Nov 3rd, 2018, 10:27 am

Jflem1983 wrote:Ok. If socialism was so great. Why do Cubans swim to Miami. Why did no one demand into the USSR.

No, please get back to providing evidence to support your claim. Let's resolve that one first.

ETA: of course, if you wish to retract your claim, that's fine.
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 3rd, 2018, 10:35 am

Verum wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:Ok. If socialism was so great. Why do Cubans swim to Miami. Why did no one demand into the USSR.

No, please get back to providing evidence to support your claim. Let's resolve that one first.

ETA: of course, if you wish to retract your claim, that's fine.



No my claim is still valid. Socialism kills. You specifically call for all sorts of socialist programs all the time. Why.
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Verum » Nov 3rd, 2018, 10:44 am

Jflem1983 wrote:...
No my claim is still valid. Socialism kills. You specifically call for all sorts of socialist programs all the time. Why.

So, please provide evidence of your claim. To quote Hitchens: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

Also, you do understand the difference between suggesting that we have some socially inspired programmes is completely different to suggesting that we completely dismantle our current property and governance system and replace it with a different one? Don't you?

Finally, would you be happy to eliminate all government provided social programmes/systems, or are you socialist in the same vein as myself with the difference being degree of social programme support?
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Queen K » Nov 4th, 2018, 2:10 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-amp ... tive-order

Gold exports being cracked down on?

Which means the govt there can't raise money to run the economy, is that right?

Seems someone wants them to fail worse than they are.
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 4th, 2018, 3:52 pm

Queen K wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-amps-up-venezuelan-crackdown-sanctions-gold-exports-with-executive-order

Gold exports being cracked down on?

Which means the govt there can't raise money to run the economy, is that right?

Seems someone wants them to fail worse than they are.



First post in the thread mentions economic hitmen. Read the book confessions of an economic hit man if you are unfamiliar with the term. Eye opening book. Likely not true verbatim. However obviosly alludes to some wider truths.

Venezuela problems are 75 percent internal. And 25 percent the result of outside help. That is my opinion only
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 4th, 2018, 4:26 pm

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/venezu ... 1540912760


Seems they are determined to hold onto CITGO. Whole world got to see the CITGO sign all world series long. Out in Fenway park. That sign is a landmark. See it go.


Wow if ever a regime was calling for American freedom to be dropped from above. Look at these guys.

Socialist drug pushers. Sitting on trillions in oil. Yep my bet is freedom gonna strike real soon.
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Queen K » Nov 4th, 2018, 5:05 pm

An invasion by the Americans is imminent? Right after the Mid-terms?
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 4th, 2018, 5:09 pm

Queen K wrote:An invasion by the Americans is imminent? Right after the Mid-terms?




Would be a good way to boost the economy. Maybe they wait till before the 2020 election ? Seems like a no brainer. All that oil. They would even look good doing it . Maduro has done nothing for his people. I doubt the army would put up much of a fight for him. It would be quick. American companies would move in. Venezuelans would be free
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Re: Venezuela

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 10th, 2018, 9:37 am

Praise Maduro. More socialist succes stories.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-gl ... 00933.html
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