How Right Wingers become bullies

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How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 4th, 2018, 4:43 pm

What do I have to do now? Post a Tomi Lahren video?

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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Omnitheo » Dec 4th, 2018, 7:24 pm

It’s pretty sad how many of my friends on the forums have left due to the behaviour and attitudes of many right wingers here.

Post after post of hatred and vitriol. Using ad hominem attacks and constant insults against people here just for having a different opinion. Posters posting facts get slandered and attacked. People looking for a debate find only rhetoric and hyperbole in response.

Unfortunately they feel emboldened by the attitudes of many politicians on the right wing. People like Trump openly encouraging ridicule or assault.

And then there’s the lack of self awareness, the gall to accuse others of the very attitudes they themselves exemplify.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby crookedmember » Dec 4th, 2018, 7:50 pm

I miss the old Progressive Conservatives. Joe Clark, Kim Campbell, Mulroney, Bill Davis, Lougheed. All educated, decent people who must gag when they see the sewer the movement has become.

Harper messed it up forever. Now it's Ford (grade 11 education), Kenney (grade 12), Little Andy (flunked everything including square dancing). Stupid people who appeal to stupid people. Experts at memes, not much good for anything else.

They motivate their equally ill-educated base not with ideas, but with hateful garbage and rife racism from Rebel Media and Sun tabloids.

Their heroes are white supremacist like Goldy and McInnes. They hate science, and anyone with an education is "elite."

What a sad state of affairs.

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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby opinion2015 » Dec 4th, 2018, 10:30 pm

The bullies voices have become more emboldened since the rise of Emperor Donald Trump.

It is next to impossible to get into a civilized debate on issues. For example, I tried to debate an obvious right wing bully on another forum, about relaxing his opinion about immigrants coming into Canada.

I asked him to consider the exodus of Germans and Italians and Japanese to Canada after WW1 and WW2. Weren't we at war with them? Have they not contributed to our development as a country? Have they been a financial burden, or have they contributed greatly financial to our economy and country?

Instead of debating the issue with me I was told I was a 'goat f---er', and then, when I opened my Facebook page a few hours later, there was a message from him. I had just posted a picture for my family and friends with the books I was reading in my back yard that sunny afternoon- "The Dalai Lama" and "The Power of Now". His comment was- "now it makes sense- you are a gay goat f---er".

My sons, daugther and grand kids (I am not gay) were not amused, and insisted (I am in my 70's) that I stop commenting on these forums, and I listened to them- and have been silent for three years- but now with the rise of Trump and his bully tactics, I just could not remain silent when I saw this forum topic.

Why can't we just debate issues without name calling and bullying? Sadly, I expect to be assailed with all kinds of negative comments, and will likely fade away again...
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 5th, 2018, 11:02 am

^^i too have left these forums from time to time for exactly the same reason. Well, not EXACTLY......... What I do on these Castanet forums is put the worst offenders on my 'ignore list'. That way, I only have to read what they write if I feel like it.........which is very seldom.

Also, I cancelled my Facebook account a few years ago, and I would advise anyone who values their privacy to do the same. Life's too short to put up with harassment from ignoramuses. (Or should that be "ignorami"? :biggrin: )
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Omnitheo » Dec 5th, 2018, 11:07 am

Such attitudes are rampant on Facebook. I haven’t used mine for years. A friend of mine once posted on a Sun News point out an error and they were harassed by waves of elderly men and women, including them reporting their profile pic as inappropriate (they had their baby picture as their profile pic which happened to have visible nipples) and getting it taken down.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Snman » Dec 5th, 2018, 8:35 pm

Gordie Howe was a right winger and some might say he was a bully.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby crookedmember » Dec 6th, 2018, 6:32 pm

The forum has become useless for political debate, because how do you debate their puerile memes, facebook shares from Elk's Rump Alberta, Ezra's conspiracy theories, batty Sun columnists, and Faith Goldy's white supremacist videos?

It's like trying to debate 5-year-olds, only without the intellectualism.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Glacier » Dec 6th, 2018, 7:10 pm

What is bullying anyway? Hurt feelings? Ad hominem attacks? The intent of the attacker?

"Tomi Lahren needs to read a book. Not reading books is how you get people saying stuff like that. She prides herself on not reading books. Seriously, Tomi, pick up a book."
~ Ben Shapiro

Is that bullying? Would it be bullying if Shapiro were a lefty? Or if her feelings were hurt? Or if he spoke in malice?
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 6th, 2018, 7:13 pm

She prides herself on not reading books? :135: As a former bookseller and a huge book buyer, and reader, I find this fact simply incredible. Why stuff yourself full of new ideas if you have to process them and maybe reconsider your approach to bullying liberals? :135:
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Veovis » Dec 6th, 2018, 9:37 pm

I got the idea of the lefty bully thread, they posted interviews and studies to back up the claim. Quite shocking information really.

This thread I have sen nothing other than anecdotal comments or just hatred towards others.

Based on the arguments in both threads this one really just validates the claims of the other at this point. QueenK I know you were being a little tongue in cheek on this but if you read what followed.......


Personally I think there are wing nut *bleep* on both sides, it's just that currently violent rude discriminatory actions form left are seen as progressive for some reason instead of people seeing it as just as garbage as the donkeys saying the same extremist *bleep* on the right.....they just say "I'm a bully but I'm bullying people for a good cause"

YA I saw that during the strike outside the casino too.....the justification was *bleep* for poor actions.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 6th, 2018, 10:02 pm

You know why this thread was started Veovis. Nothing to do with studies and links either.

What do you call a guy who says, "I know how you are" and then won't meet you in person to assure you that you're safe and have nothing to worry about? After repeated requests to do so?

A bully.

That's my ancedote and it's a true one too.

And no people, it's not Veovis. :up:
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 6th, 2018, 10:16 pm

I just came back from googling "why right wingers bully" and it's pretty tough to wade through 38 milion plus hits.

Let's just say each side is accusing the other of bullying tactics of all sorts.

Such as the NRA is bullying Parkland students into silence, or Liberals use bullying Tactics, or Bullying: the new American Way.

It's a huge topic and there are as many articles warning people of Right Winger tactics as there are Right wingers vowing to shut down liberal bullies.

Has the word bully become the new "hero", so watered down now it's meaningless?
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 6th, 2018, 10:30 pm

Veovis wrote:I got the idea of the lefty bully thread, they posted interviews and studies to back up the claim. Quite shocking information really.

This thread I have sen nothing other than anecdotal comments or just hatred towards others.

Based on the arguments in both threads this one really just validates the claims of the other at this point. QueenK I know you were being a little tongue in cheek on this but if you read what followed.......


Personally I think there are wing nut *bleep* on both sides, it's just that currently violent rude discriminatory actions form left are seen as progressive for some reason instead of people seeing it as just as garbage as the donkeys saying the same extremist *bleep* on the right.....they just say "I'm a bully but I'm bullying people for a good cause"

YA I saw that during the strike outside the casino too.....the justification was *bleep* for poor actions.


Nope. this thread is meant as a rebuttal to Gone Fishin's and I'm not seeing the hatred in the posts.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Veovis » Dec 6th, 2018, 11:34 pm

Queen K wrote:Nope. this thread is meant as a rebuttal to Gone Fishin's and I'm not seeing the hatred in the posts.


That thread noted a study. This has not one link, but lots of jargon saying people with right wing beliefs are bad people. I'm sad to hear you don't see hatred in people making comments like "emperor Trump" etc. IT's all meant is a derogatory fashion to disparage and incite dislike for a group of people. IF that isn't hate I don't know what is.

Hating trump is easy, using trump to hate all people that disagree with you is bad.

(note I find Trump a goofy turd as well)....doesn't mean I have to agree with people who make crazy declarations.


also fun to note - noting that the left has been found in studies to be far bigger bullies is grounds for bickering room. Calling right wing people garbage is just a regular topic. Feels to me they both belong in the a-hole room.
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