How Right Wingers become bullies

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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Omnitheo » Dec 7th, 2018, 12:09 am

Interesting that criticism of trump is being mentioned here, but no mention of the sheer number of anti Trudeau posts made here constantly. Thread after thread created with hyperbolic subjects or outright misinformation attacking the prime minister, using names like “Justine” saying he’s communist or racist or other unsubstantiated nonesense.

There are very few people who actually use derogatory terms to refer to Trump. Mainly people are criticizing his abuses of power. His bullying of people and organizations. His lies, his shortsightedness. His hypocrisy. His blatant disregard for the traditions of the presidency or the nation’s symbols. Ordering attacks on innocents. Overt racism and sexism (not just people making blind accusations of such, but actual tweets and videos with it coming straight from his mouth in his own words)

And then people come in attacking people because they feel it is not how a president should act? Right wingers accusing everything, including trump’s own tweets as fake news. Calling people communists because they disagree with separating families and locking children in cages or tear gassing them? Because they disagree with a president who criticized others for going golfing but then spends millions of taxpayer dollars doing the very same thing himself? Who appointed his own family members to key positions and has used the presidency to further his own business interests? Trump critics attempt to hold the president to higher standards, and they get met with memes mocking them. Memes disregarding the reality of the criticisms to accuse them of being some sort of pre-programmed automotons.

Right wing vitriol and violence is on the rise. This is not just anecdotal. You can read it here on these forums.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 7th, 2018, 7:34 am

Omnitheo wrote:Interesting that criticism of trump is being mentioned here, but no mention of the sheer number of anti Trudeau posts made here constantly. .


who cares? Trudeau isn't a leftist, he's a puppet of the Laurentide Elite.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 7th, 2018, 7:39 am

crookedmember wrote:It's like trying to debate 5-year-olds, only without the intellectualism.


I share your pain on this. The level of debate being at the 5 year old level is alive and well on both sides. When someone posts an out-right lie, or many lies, over and over again, trying in vain to keep their hopes of seeing a one-world government in place ruled by an unelected elite, decreeing that we all live in caves to stop fairy tales like "man-made climate change", and then said people cry about being "bullied" when they are called out, or worse, cry about being told they have to support their positions rather than just post hyperbole and unproven nonsense about hurricanes, they whine and cry, and refuse to take any responsibility for their actions.

What I like about these forums is that both sides get a say, and both sides get a chance to hold the other to account. Rarely is anything ever accomplished, and rarely do I see anyone's minds changed (as they choose to dwell in their own echo-chambers which is fed with information that just confirms their own biases) but for me at least, this is an outlet to talk about our leaders, and question blind faith displayed in them, just because they share similar confirmation biases. It's a great place to call out hypocrisy, and hopefully, make some people think. That's the power of these forums, in my view. You can cry about being bullied here, or you can take responsibility for your actions, and try to stick to truth, rather than just parrot lies David Suzuki and his evil minions are feeding you.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Ka-El » Dec 7th, 2018, 7:48 am

Why is Right Wing Conservatism so Mean?

One of the things people in a Democracy need to concern themselves about from time to time is the development of mass psychosis. Sometimes the welfare of the public comes under threats from political movements that hold positions that fly in the face of facts, ask people to do things that normal conscience would preclude, and support policies which result in the ill health, oppression, or expiration of others - and in particular, the marginalization and brutalization of minorities and the poor.

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Let’s take a quick survey of issue areas that reveal with clarity what some Right Wing Conservative policy positions entail:

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose things like universal health care, Medicare, and Medicaid?

The opposite is to let people die without adequate health care. Right Wing Conservative policies equate to telling people that can’t afford their own health care, they should just die. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose financial and business regulations?

Having an economy based upon unbridled, unregulated businesses only guarantees financial swindles of unsuspecting people and dangerous products sold to consumers. This is business based upon the notion of Caveat Emptor” – “Let the buyer beware.” Such business practices take the attitude that the consumers are idiots who deserve to be swindled out of their money. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose Civil Rights, Equal Rights, and Gay Rights?

The existence of an unjust society where people are not entitled to equal and civil rights creates a civilization based upon differing classes of citizenship under the law. This is nothing short of slavery. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose things like Welfare, Food Stamps, Social Security, and subsidized housing for the poor?

What are the poor supposed to do – starve and / or be homeless? Not taking care of the least among us is mean and the social policies of Right Wing Conservatism would create results that, as Scrooge would say, “if the poor were going to die, they had better hurry up and do it to decrease the surplus population” This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose public education?

Having large numbers of people under educated and unable to provide decent lives for themselves in a global Knowledge Age is a formula for social disaster. Whether it is the proliferation of crime, the election of demagogues, poor public health, social disruption, broken families, multi-generational poverty - - all of these are the legacy of a lack of adequate support for public education. This only keeps the poor uneducated and poor. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose governmental regulation of product safety?

Without product safety regulation we would not be able to be sure of the safety of our cars, toasters, electrical sockets, nor anything else we purchase. We wouldn’t be able to return faulty products. Opposing safety standards is an attempt to offer the public dangerous and sub-standard products. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose environmental regulation?

Obviously, now with the BP Gulf oil spill disaster, the lack of environmental regulation results in a poisoned environment if its care is only entrusted to the goodwill of corporations. Opposing strong environmental regulations results in damaged ecosystems, health problems, and destroys lives. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose taxation?

When those with a great concentration of wealth and resources do not have the conscience to take care of the least among us, in a just society, they must be made to do so. After all, the people who get rich are doing so upon the labor and consumption of others. Taxes enable us to have roads, bridges, police and fire departments, schools, hospitals, a military defense, product safety, environmental safeguards… all of which are necessary infrastructure for the wealthy to make their money. We need taxation of the wealthy to provide for the needs of the poor who are being used to generate the wealth. Furthermore keeping people at slave labor wages that are not enough to subsidize a decent quality of life – compensation for labor that is not a living wage – is actual slavery. A living wage provides for food, housing, transportation, child care, health care, entertainment, and continuing education. Anything less than a living wage is an insult, is slavery, and relies upon the rest of society to pick up the tab to cover the difference between the actual costs of living and the wages paid. It is cheaper to keep one as a wage slave than it is to pay to keep them as an actual slave. This is mean.

Why does Right Wing Conservatism oppose the rights of organized labor?

The Middle Class owes its existence to organized labor. Without it, we wouldn’t have the working conditions we have today. Many people fought and died for labor rights, which too few of us remember. If it weren’t for organized labor, businesses would not have been forced to improve the working conditions of their workers, and as is obvious from the behavior of big business (which is more than happy to use slave labor in places like China and Vietnam because it is cheaper and there are few, if any, health, safety, and environmental regulations) that working conditions would not have changed. If it were left to some businesses, workers would still be slaving away in the working conditions of Dickensian sweatshops – even in the U.S. Many people still are working in such conditions around the world. Many of them work for American companies. Without organized labor, we would still have child labor, no minimum wage, no 40 hour work week, no weekend, no worker’s compensation, no unemployment insurance, no occupational health and safety standards, and no collective bargaining. Right Wing Conservatism opposed all of these, and this is mean.

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Right-wingers are such meanies :-X
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 7th, 2018, 8:22 am

Ka-El wrote:Right-wingers are such meanies :-X


LOL. Yeah. That's how all right-wingers are, summed up. The Left are a bunch of sweet-hearts all right.
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Ka-El » Dec 7th, 2018, 3:57 pm

don't be such a snowflake :D
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Re: How Right Wingers become bullies

Postby Queen K » Dec 7th, 2018, 4:00 pm

Veovis did want links and data. :up:
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