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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby OKkayak » Jan 13th, 2019, 12:34 pm

^^^ And another salesman pitching their snake oil diet :biggrin:
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Bikes » Jan 13th, 2019, 1:08 pm

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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby OKkayak » Jan 13th, 2019, 1:37 pm

Bikes wrote:
OKkayak wrote:do you have a rebuttal or are you just a dumb dick who feels they are right?

Guess you failed to notice the :biggrin: at the end of my post. Usually indicates a remark was meant as something light hearted.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Bikes » Jan 13th, 2019, 2:54 pm

Guess you failed to notice the :biggrin: at the end of my post. Usually indicates a remark was meant as something light hearted.[/quote]
You mean like Trudeau " I was just joking"?
learn some decorum. you aren't as smart or as funny as you think.
In short, why open your mouth if all you have is garbage to contribute?
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby OKkayak » Jan 13th, 2019, 10:03 pm

Bikes wrote:You mean like Trudeau " I was just joking"?
learn some decorum. you aren't as smart or as funny as you think.
In short, why open your mouth if all you have is garbage to contribute?

Sorry that you can't take a little light heartedness on The Net. Not sure what Trudeau has to do with anything, but hey, whatever. Anyway, go find someone else to troll, m'kay :up:
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 13th, 2019, 10:50 pm

Bikes wrote:!!!!!!FASTING CAN AND WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE OR THE LIFE OF SOME ONE YOU LOVE!!!!!!
WATER AND SALT ONLY!
there is no such thing as a cleanse Period!
The only thing that works is autophagy. That takes at least 36 hours of no insulin in the body, then an enduring sate of Ketosis and ZERO...... I repeat.... 0 CALORIES!

For those who are still deluded and think that we need constant food to live.
this man went 382 days without a single calorie. Many people have gone for two months or more.
you must lose all the lies you have been told about food.
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1953 ... diet-ever/

No one makes money.
you spend no money.
It saves your life.

here are the undeniable facts.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAohrr ... 5QF1WlM9_w

reversing diabetes
https://blog.virtahealth.com/dr-sarah-h ... -diabetes/

If you love your family and you are over weight even a few pounds.
Please Please Please look into fasting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk


Now let's be a little bit sensible. No one said we have to eat constantly to live.
I also don't think most people are going to function very well, particularly diabetics or those who are insulin resistant if they don't eat for days.
So one guy went for over a year, or others have gone 2 months without eating, how much activity or brain function did they muster during that time? Sure I can lose 10 pounds if I don't eat for a week, then I have to eat. There's no mystery to starving yourself. Millions of overweight people have lost millions of pounds, and most gain it back. That must be happening for a reason, since it is such a common phenomenon. Anorexics manage to lose weight, to the point of starvation, that doesn't make them very healthy mentally or physically. Anorexics aren't functioning or healthy, they are dying. How well is a football player or a sprinter going to function if he doesn't eat?

So how are the rest of us going to eat and still exercise, work at a physical job, drive to pick up the kids without passing out, or think straight on the job? and not gain more weight when our body is telling us it's not getting enough food to function? Why would we need to starve ourselves to be healthy? it's not working very well for people who are actually starving.

Just losing weight (by starvation or whatever means) does not cure diabetes. Most diabetics will still need medication, oral or by injection sooner or later. No matter how much weight I (or a diabetic) loses (without dying) carbohydrates will still cause a rise in blood sugar that it does not cause in normal people (the other half of the population). Therefore, we still have diabetes.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 13th, 2019, 11:08 pm

So you can put diabetics on a very low calorie diet and, not surprisingly they can lose weight, 14% of their body weight in 8 weeks. The problem actually is not losing weight, it's how to improve blood sugar when they do eat. Only 50% of the long term diabetics got off their medication. Better than none, but not a cure. Their fasting blood glucose improved, but it doesn't state that their post meal blood glucose improved, or by how much. They will have to break their fast. and most people can not live on a very low calorie diet indefinitely. What about the 50% that still needed medication? why didn't it work for them?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25683066

After five years of same sort of intervention: many still required medication.I'm not saying it was useless because they probably required less medication than if they had not followed a very low calorie diet. But it was not a cure, even for those who didn't drop out of the program.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11972741
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2019, 10:21 am

RustyCrayon wrote:There was a very interesting show on CBC Radio today about Doctors getting onboard with the Keto diet:

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/doctors-who-champion-low-carb-high-fat-diets-go-against-the-grain-1.4974730

This is an excellent overview of the problem with the current protocols prescribed for a healthy diet.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2019, 5:49 pm

Silverstarqueen wrote:So you can put diabetics on a very low calorie diet and, not surprisingly they can lose weight, 14% of their body weight in 8 weeks. The problem actually is not losing weight, it's how to improve blood sugar when they do eat. Only 50% of the long term diabetics got off their medication. Better than none, but not a cure. Their fasting blood glucose improved, but it doesn't state that their post meal blood glucose improved, or by how much. They will have to break their fast. and most people can not live on a very low calorie diet indefinitely. What about the 50% that still needed medication? why didn't it work for them?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25683066

After five years of same sort of intervention: many still required medication.I'm not saying it was useless because they probably required less medication than if they had not followed a very low calorie diet. But it was not a cure, even for those who didn't drop out of the program.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11972741

To answer your query about a low calorie diet and why it is so difficult to maintain here is the Minnesota Starvation study that fed men a high calorie diet and the dropped the caloric intake in half. All that the men could think about was food.
On the other hand men have fasted for a long period of time but did not feel hungry and suffered no ill effects.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzo ... e=youtu.be

ttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fEgIWSj7opE.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2019, 5:52 pm

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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2019, 7:11 pm

The Okinawa diet according to Wikipedia looks somewhat different than what you describe:

The dietary intake of Okinawans compared to other Japanese circa 1950 shows that Okinawans consumed: fewer total calories (1785 vs. 2068), less polyunsaturated fat (4.8% of calories vs. 8%), less rice (154g vs. 328g), significantly less wheat, barley and other grains (38g vs. 153g), less sugars (3g vs. 8g), more legumes (71g vs. 55g), significantly less fish (15g vs. 62g), significantly less meat and poultry (3g vs. 11g), less eggs (1g vs. 7g), less dairy (<1g vs. 8g), much more sweet potatoes (849g vs. 66g), less other potatoes (2g vs. 47g), less fruit (<1g vs. 44g), and no pickled vegetables (0g vs. 42g). [4] In short, the Okinawans circa 1950 ate sweet potatoes for 849 grams of the 1262 grams of food that they consumed, which constituted 69% of their total calories.[4]


The number one reason why the Okinawa diet is successful is that there is low sugar compared to other Japanese and compared to the average American who consumes 10 times the amount of sugar that the Japanese do.
http://sugarscience.ucsf.edu/the-growin ... D4WUVxKjIU
Yet, the average American consumes 17 teaspoons (71.14 grams) every day. That translates into about 57 pounds of added sugar consumed each year, per person.

The metabolic consequence of sugar has a 7 fold negative affect as does carbohydrate such as white rice. Fructose the sweet part of table sugar does not trigger Ghrelin in the stomach so it does not satisfy us.
additionally the Okinawans eat a lot of sweet potatoes which have an enormous amount of fibre, the very thing which protects us from absorbing sugar too rapidly.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Bikes » Jan 14th, 2019, 8:43 pm

You are entitled to your own feelings but not your own facts
Facts are facts....
People who have done no studying are the ones to first chime in with their uneducated feelings as the 'correct' position on almost every topic. Knee jerk responses are so droll.
Had the above naysayers and pedantic asses actually done any research they would realize that fasting is as close to a medical miracle as we have in the world.
But hey you just keep being "right" and watch you and your families die from chronic inflammation caused by insulin resistance.
At least you can type a wall of *bleep* on castanet right?

The old lesson applies.
Would you rather be happy or right?
Would you rather be alive and enjoying your life or would you rather keep your addiction to sugar and BS, and then die "right"?

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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Bikes » Jan 14th, 2019, 8:45 pm

Now let's be a little bit sensible. No one said we have to eat constantly to live.
I also don't think most people are going to function very well, particularly diabetics or those who are insulin resistant if they don't eat for days.
So one guy went for over a year, or others have gone 2 months without eating, how much activity or brain function did they muster during that time? Sure I can lose 10 pounds if I don't eat for a week, then I have to eat. There's no mystery to starving yourself. Millions of overweight people have lost millions of pounds, and most gain it back. That must be happening for a reason, since it is such a common phenomenon. Anorexics manage to lose weight, to the point of starvation, that doesn't make them very healthy mentally or physically. Anorexics aren't functioning or healthy, they are dying. How well is a football player or a sprinter going to function if he doesn't eat?

So how are the rest of us going to eat and still exercise, work at a physical job, drive to pick up the kids without passing out, or think straight on the job? and not gain more weight when our body is telling us it's not getting enough food to function? Why would we need to starve ourselves to be healthy? it's not working very well for people who are actually starving.

Just losing weight (by starvation or whatever means) does not cure diabetes. Most diabetics will still need medication, oral or by injection sooner or later. No matter how much weight I (or a diabetic) loses (without dying) carbohydrates will still cause a rise in blood sugar that it does not cause in normal people (the other half of the population). Therefore, we still have diabetes.[/quote]

Do YOU even know what condescending means?
....are you trying to be an idiot?
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby Bikes » Jan 14th, 2019, 8:48 pm

OKkayak wrote:
Bikes wrote:You mean like Trudeau " I was just joking"?
learn some decorum. you aren't as smart or as funny as you think.
In short, why open your mouth if all you have is garbage to contribute?

Sorry that you can't take a little light heartedness on The Net. Not sure what Trudeau has to do with anything, but hey, whatever. Anyway, go find someone else to troll, m'kay :up:


remember when trudeau told the lady about people-kind...then said he was joking...it was just a few months ago and it became a meme worldwide?
so Yah it does. a current analogy always plays well to those with their head outside of their rectum....
again ...maybe just shut up if you have nothing to add but your free association with your perceived reality.
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Re: Mikhaila Peterson and the All Meat Diet

Postby LTD » Jan 14th, 2019, 9:03 pm

you take your own advice
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