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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 27th, 2016, 6:19 pm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 122445.htm

In a stunning discovery that overturns decades of textbook teaching, researchers at the University of Virginia School of Medicine have determined that the brain is directly connected to the immune system by vessels previously thought not to exist. That such vessels could have escaped detection when the lymphatic system has been so thoroughly mapped throughout the body is surprising on its own, but the true significance of the discovery lies in the effects it could have on the study and treatment of neurological diseases ranging from autism to Alzheimer's disease to multiple sclerosis.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby JennW » Mar 28th, 2016, 2:31 am

kgcayenne wrote:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150601122445.htm

In a stunning discovery that overturns decades of textbook teaching, researchers at the University of Virginia School of Medicine have determined that the brain is directly connected to the immune system by vessels previously thought not to exist. That such vessels could have escaped detection when the lymphatic system has been so thoroughly mapped throughout the body is surprising on its own, but the true significance of the discovery lies in the effects it could have on the study and treatment of neurological diseases ranging from autism to Alzheimer's disease to multiple sclerosis.


Still getting basic cause and effect wrong. Something that exists cannot be caused by something that hasn't happened yet. Autism begins in the womb and vaccinations occur after birth, see the problem here?

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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 28th, 2016, 5:13 am

Immunizations impact the ---- immune system --- the immune system; therefore the revelation that the immune system is linked to neurological disorders makes it plausible that immunizations can most certainly have an effect---albeit rare.

More importantly: These conditions can BE TREATED once the link is established. Why, OH WHY would you not embrace the idea that treatment/ recovery is possible, which might take some of the fear out of many people's decisions.


I have observed the treatment of a serious neurological disorder caused by the immune system. So while you may still chose to ignore the reality of this medical discovery, I cannot.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby Fancy » Mar 28th, 2016, 2:54 pm

Knowing vaccinations help stave off dangerous diseases, one needs to balance what's efficient and what's not.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 28th, 2016, 4:06 pm

If acknowledgement that problems can happen is finally made, then earlier detection of reactions and subsequent treatment can take place before the condition goes life-threatening or life-altering/debilitating. If there is, for example, a family history of autoimmune conditions, then perhaps this factors in. (Well actually, I happen to know it factors in.)
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby JennW » Mar 29th, 2016, 12:03 am

kgcayenne wrote:If acknowledgement that problems can happen is finally made, then earlier detection of reactions and subsequent treatment can take place before the condition goes life-threatening or life-altering/debilitating. If there is, for example, a family history of autoimmune conditions, then perhaps this factors in. (Well actually, I happen to know it factors in.)



We are still talking about Autism here, aren't we?
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 29th, 2016, 5:03 am

Late-onset autism has been traced, by those who are aware, to an autoimmune condition attacking the protein responsible for synaptic responses with receptors. The symptoms are first behavioural, and then can actually become critical once more receptors stop communicating inside the brain with autonomic functions like digestion, breathing, and the heart. There are so many autonomic functions that can be interrupted yet not be deadly, that how can Drs possibly come to the "oh it's autoimmune encephalitis" conclusion? Families see the changes first and often dismissed by doctors after initial work-up, because unless special COSTLY testing for titres is completed, 100% of the bloodwork comes back normal.

Recent research has been able to open the door to discovering other autoimmune neurological conditions aside from autism. One woman in Croatia has returned to a normal life after 3.5 years' worth of suffering 'schizophrenia'... except that's because it wasn't actually schizoprenia.

For kicks, go find the movie Awakenings ant that'll show you how long knowledge of this sort of thing has been floating around without the techniques to treat successfully.

We mess with the immune system and it can set off body-wide fires. It is known; it is documented, it is often overlooked/ignored.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby JennW » Mar 29th, 2016, 5:08 am

kgcayenne wrote:Late-onset autism has been traced, by those who are aware, to an autoimmune condition attacking the protein responsible for synaptic responses with receptors. The symptoms are first behavioural, and then can actually become critical once more receptors stop communicating inside the brain with autonomic functions like digestion, breathing, and the heart. There are so many autonomic functions that can be interrupted yet not be deadly, that how can Drs possibly come to the "oh it's autoimmune encephalitis" conclusion? Families see the changes first and often dismissed by doctors after initial work-up, because unless special COSTLY testing for titres is completed, 100% of the bloodwork comes back normal.

Recent research has been able to open the door to discovering other autoimmune neurological conditions aside from autism. One woman in Croatia has returned to a normal life after 3.5 years' worth of suffering 'schizophrenia'... except that's because it wasn't actually schizoprenia.

For kicks, go find the movie Awakenings ant that'll show you how long knowledge of this sort of thing has been floating around without the techniques to treat successfully.

We mess with the immune system and it can set off body-wide fires. It is known; it is documented, it is often overlooked/ignored.



and you have sources for all of your claims? also what do you consider to be late-onset autism?
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 29th, 2016, 5:13 am

Peer review articles, interactions with survivors spanning from beside me on the sofa to worldwide, & communication with neurologists in Barcelona who are making great, but quiet, strides in tandem with the University of Pennsylvania.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby JennW » Mar 29th, 2016, 5:17 am

kgcayenne wrote:Peer review articles, interactions with survivors spanning from beside me on the sofa to worldwide, & communication with neurologists in Barcelona who are making great, but quiet, strides in tandem with the University of Pennsylvania.


... and none of these sources are on the internet?
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Mar 29th, 2016, 5:21 am

A couple online articles, and if you dig further you will find more http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3158385/

I'm not going to post my emails here, though, and the tough as nails young lady in my house is likely to become a case study. I stopped keeping track of the number of 3" binders that make up her file; that'd be a *bleep* to scan.
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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby the truth » Apr 3rd, 2016, 9:06 am

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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby Silverstarqueen » Apr 4th, 2016, 7:34 am

Let's say, for the sake of argument that there is a small percentage of children who are getting autism from vaccines. In the U.s. (pop over 300 Million) lets estimate 3,000,000 kids per year get vaccines in their first year. Without vaccines, how many would have some complication from the diseases (rubella causes horrendous birth defects, pertussis kills small babies, measles can be serious for many).Exact percentage unknown but lets estimate 10% complications, 1% death, obvious huge strain on the medical system. So 300,000 would be hospitalized, 30,000 would die.(That's like two airliners full of children crashing per week) How many cases of autism are estimated to result from vaccines in U.s? 680 per 30,000 vaccinations. Certainly devastating for the families involved, but those kids might have been seriously ill or died from disease if they didn't have the vaccine. Would there be far more public outcry if parents were skipping the vaccines, and unborn were dying or being born with defects due to infection, or dying in their first year or two or life. Look at the horrific effects of the Zika virus. Ask those parents if they would rather have a small fraction of increase in autism , if there was a vaccine, or take their chances with the Zika virus?

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Re: Do vaccinations or inoculations trigger autism?

Postby kgcayenne » Apr 4th, 2016, 8:02 am

How about certain high-stakes pharmaceutical companies finally acknowledge there are some who do react, embrace that new research being disclosed shows that these conditions are TREATABLE, and get those who need it the treatment required.

Yah, I know it costs a great deal of money to treat those conditions (eg. IVIG is $20k a dose).
Yah, I bet there will be lawsuits immediately once the reactions are admitted to. Hey, if the reactions are as rare as they claim, then what’s the big deal: admit it; offer settlement; move on.

How about we stop letting people die over money.
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