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THe survival rate from most of the bird/swine flus is way higher than ebola. Difference is a respiratory disease which a small number of people can't seem to fight off well (e.g. smokers, other health risks), and a hemorhagic disease which kills 50-70% of its victims. There are only more people susceptible to heart disease or cancer because they have been around and we have a lot of older people. Ebola would kill all ages, and is just getting started. Also you don't "catch" heart disease or cancer. Ebola would spread something as easily as the flu, but is more deadly.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:THe survival rate from most of the bird/swine flus is way higher than ebola. Difference is a respiratory disease which a small number of people can't seem to fight off well (e.g. smokers, other health risks), and a hemorhagic disease which kills 50-70% of its victims. There are only more people susceptible to heart disease or cancer because they have been around and we have a lot of older people. Ebola would kill all ages, and is just getting started. Also you don't "catch" heart disease or cancer. Ebola would spread something as easily as the flu, but is more deadly.


Well said.
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but the good thing for us is ebola kills quickly , which means less chance of it being spread fast in wide areas , as long as out breaks are managed effectively
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Silverstarqueen wrote:Ebola would spread something as easily as the flu, but is more deadly.


No, it does not spread as easily as the flu. Ebola is not airborne. You must be in direct contact with body fluids of a symptomatic person with ebola and that body fluid must penetrate your body to infect you.
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"As the number of Ebola cases rises so does the odds that it will mutate and become airborne."
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Quailize wrote:"As the number of Ebola cases rises so does the odds that it will mutate and become airborne."


As the number of pigs in the world increases so do the odds that they will mutate to become airborne as well and one is very nearly as likely as the other. Seriously, if you listen to what actual scientists in the field are saying, it's really very, very unlikely that ebola will ever become airborne. Viruses seriously almost never do that.
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Catri wrote:quote="Silverstarqueen"Ebola would spread something as easily as the flu, but is more deadly./quote

No, it does not spread as easily as the flu. Ebola is not airborne. You must be in direct contact with body fluids of a symptomatic person with ebola and that body fluid must penetrate your body to infect you.


Ebola person gets sick , no doubt has germs nasal secretions, saliva, on hands, face, cough or vomits in ambulance, sits in waiting room touching everything with germy hands. Anyone who picks up those germs on their hands, and touches their nose or eyes can be infected. How did a fully gowned nurse, who was following protocol to the best of her ability, get this disease? How many people are fully gowned and masked in a waiting room of a doctor's office, or walk in clinic, which is where these people will turn up. How many will be sent home with a prescription or suggestion to drink fluids and continue to spread their disease? Should we gown up the pharmacists or place them behind glass, because they will also be on the front line of people looking for something for their headache, fever. How many people wash properly (or at all) when they use a washroom, which is where "bodily fluids" can turn up? If a child is exposed to ebola and goes to school, how careful are they about not coughing, sneezing vomiting, or about washing up, sharing drink containers , food, etc.
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Catri wrote:quote="Quailize""As the number of Ebola cases rises so does the odds that it will mutate and become airborne."/quote

As the number of pigs in the world increases so do the odds that they will mutate to become airborne as well and one is very nearly as likely as the other. Seriously, if you listen to what actual scientists in the field are saying, it's really very, very unlikely that ebola will ever become airborne. Viruses seriously almost never do that.


It doesn't have to become airborne. It already spreads by contact with any secretions from the person and has shown it is very contagious. It has been shown to spread from one lab animal to another who were in their own cages and not in direct contact with each other. So how'd they do that? THe flu is also often transmitted by "direct contact" which is why health officials say to "wash hands frequently" in order to slow the spread of it.
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Cigarettes will kill someone in North America every 1 and 1/2 minutes.
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rookie314 wrote:Cigarettes will kill someone in North America every 1 and 1/2 minutes.

which is a deliberate, self inflicted injury which takes many years to kill someone, meanwhile they live a relatively normal life. What does this have to do with a contagious disease which can kill you in two to three weeks? it's contagious, don't you see the difference? If a smoker sits next to you in a waiting room at the walk in, or doctor's office, or hospial, you are not at risk of "catching" their cancer or lung disease.
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rookie314 wrote:Cigarettes will kill someone in North America every 1 and 1/2 minutes.


I don't understand why people keep trying to compare ebola with completely unrelated things that cause death?
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If this disease is so hard to catch why these numbers in just a few months?: Doctors without Borders said Ebola was "out of control" back in June, and the WHO did not take them seriously.

Ebola outbreak in West Africa spreading rapidly

Number of countries with cases: 7 (Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, Senegal, United States, Spain)

The WHO says these figures from the Oct. 17 report, may be underestimates:

Number of cases: 9,216

The U.S. Centres for Disease Control estimates the actual number of cases is 2.5 times the number of cases reported to the WHO.

About 22 per cent of the confirmed cases are 17 years old or younger, according to UNICEF.

Number of deaths: 4,555

Number of deaths as a share of the number of total cases, West Africa: 49 per cent

Number of deaths as a share of the number of case patients with definitive outcomes: 71 per cent

Currently there are almost 1000 new cases per week. (Why so many if this disease is hard to catch?) This will increase exponentially as the health resources are already overwhelmed.
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At 50-70% Death Rate , Ebola is too easily spread. When nurses are taping their gear around their neck to fill a gap- That's about fear of contact. As fast as things go downhill for those showing symptoms, it's not fast enough. Even a day of hacking, sweating, vomiting is more than enough time to potentially come into contact with many. All it takes it's a couple secondary infections and it all starts again. When? Somewhere within 21 days
Hardly heart disease or cancer
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Whenever I bleed from an orfice and go to KGH and tell them I suspect it's ebola they laugh at me.
I'd expect more compassion from health care professionals.
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To Bman ...

Probably because you still had on your UFC outfit and were bleeding from your knuckles.
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