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Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

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Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Thinktank » Dec 31st, 2016, 6:38 am

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First, they tell us getting the flu shot protects everyone by "herd immunity." That's the first lie.

Then, when the most heavily vaccinated people on earth, the elderly in nursing homes start dropping dead
during flu season, mostly from taking pharmaceutical drugs (as our population ages, we are spending $billions on drugs from our doctor) - they blame the flu.

The fact is, to tell a healthy person to get the flu shot to protect other people around him, like the interior health ministry does - is a crime. Because some years the flu "goes around" more and some years it "goes around less, and more than half us are not getting the flu shot each year - every year. Flu shot herd immunity is a giant scam. There's no such thing.

Flu contributed to 15 deaths
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#184785

"Herd immunity is the idea that if I'm the one cow who can't get vaccinated surrounded by all the other cows who did, then they can't give me anything," says Cindy Modie, supervisor of vaccine services at bla bla bla....

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/inde ... _gett.html
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby zzontar » Dec 31st, 2016, 9:07 am

I would think that at care facilities, all seniors would get a flu shot?
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby the truth » Dec 31st, 2016, 9:12 am

good question, do they all have too ?
that being said why so many dead, flu shot is killing them maybe,
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Bsuds » Dec 31st, 2016, 10:52 am

zzontar wrote:I would think that at care facilities, all seniors would get a flu shot?


It is not mandatory and lots don't get it. It isn't always the Flu that kills them but complications from it and other problems they all ready have.
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby the truth » Dec 31st, 2016, 11:57 am

ya but some on here would want us to beleive that it is the ones that did not get the flu shot that died ,lol [icon_lol2.gif]
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Bsuds » Dec 31st, 2016, 1:53 pm

the truth wrote:ya but some on here would want us to beleive that it is the ones that did not get the flu shot that died ,lol [icon_lol2.gif]


Considering IH has no idea who has and who hasn't received the shot then we will never know.
As well as having the shot is no guaranty of not getting sick but not having it the chances are greater.

I'll believe what my Doctor tells me (he goes by the research) before the BS the anti vaxers are touting.
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Thinktank » Dec 31st, 2016, 2:26 pm

I'll bet $1,000,000 dollars less than 50% of people in the Okanagan Valley get a flu shot.

So you'd have to be slightly insane to go get a flu shot thinking it will "protect the herd."

Yet that's exactly what doctors tell people. They say it works by "herd immunity." Which is a total lie.
Because the ones dropping dead from the flu right now, are the ones that all got flu shots.

And what percent of doctors get flu shots? Less than 50%.
The doctors themselves blow the herd immunity myth to hell.
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby slootman » Dec 31st, 2016, 8:17 pm

What evidence do you have that herd immunity is a scam?
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby slootman » Dec 31st, 2016, 8:18 pm

the truth wrote:ya but some on here would want us to beleive that it is the ones that did not get the flu shot that died ,lol [icon_lol2.gif]


How do you know that's not the case?
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Thinktank » Jan 2nd, 2017, 9:48 am

slootman wrote:What evidence do you have that herd immunity is a scam?


The flu has hit the Okanagan hard this year, playing a role in the deaths of 15 elderly people in the Interior Health region.

^ they all got flu shots - FREE FREE FREE - paid by taxpayers, all of them believing in herd immunity.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#184785
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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Lore » Jan 2nd, 2017, 1:10 pm

Thinktank wrote:
slootman wrote:What evidence do you have that herd immunity is a scam?


The flu has hit the Okanagan hard this year, playing a role in the deaths of 15 elderly people in the Interior Health region.

^ they all got flu shots - FREE FREE FREE - paid by taxpayers, all of them believing in herd immunity.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#184785

LOL,so unreal.
Anyways, you did not answer slootman's question.
Next, you do not know if all (or any) of these seniors got the flu shot.
Next, you do not know if people who got their flu shot believe in herd immunity or
if they just believe in their DR's (and the benefits of the flu shot) who probably knows
more about health care than you do.
Next, a senior or a person with a compromised immune system can get a flu shot and it will not be as effective
as the flu shot would be in a younger and healthier person but will still offer some immunity against the flu.
Some immunity against the flu is better than none.
Next, ......... no that's probably good for now. Don't want to throw to much at you.
Read carefully, try to comprehend and do some more research on flu shots instead
of the ukraine or scams(?) or what ever.

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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Jonrox » Jan 2nd, 2017, 2:45 pm

Herd immunity works... it's just math and statistics. It's not even debatable. It's just adding, multiplying, and dividing numbers. There is literally no way it doesn't work.

The issue is that for many illnesses/diseases it could take over 80% of people getting the vaccine to achieve herd immunity.

We don't have a large enough percentage of the population who got the flu shot for us to achieve herd immunity, so your argument here is incredibly flawed anyway. I don't think there's anyone who said or believes that we have reached that level.

Herd immunity or not... vaccines save lives.

We achieved the eradication of smallpox through widespread vaccination and it's estimated that this has resulted in 5 million lives being saved annually. Not such a scam is it?

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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby w84u2 » Jan 2nd, 2017, 4:03 pm

Vaccines bring 7 diseases under control
Two hundred years after the discovery of vaccine by the English physician Edward Jenner, immunization can be credited with saving approximately 9 million lives a year worldwide. A further 16 million deaths a year could be prevented if effective vaccines were deployed against all potentially vaccine-preventable diseases.

So far only one disease, smallpox, has been eradicated by vaccines, saving approximately 5 million lives annually.


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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby slootman » Jan 2nd, 2017, 6:39 pm

It seems to some that saving 5 million lives every year is less important than profits of companies that develop vaccines. Sad.

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Re: Flu shot herd immunity: a big scam

Postby Jonrox » Jan 2nd, 2017, 7:41 pm

The anti-vaxxers in this thread care more about money than children's lives. They'd prefer to see millions of dead kids rather than a company make a profit. Disgusting.

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