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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Thinktank » Jan 19th, 2018, 10:02 am

Fancy wrote:] It's been said it's 10% but that is debatable (info on the flu thread).


do you even know what that means?

Let's hear someone on this forum ( who is a genius) explain to the rest of us what does it mean
when a flu shot is 10% effective, when most years you have a 95% chance of not getting the flu
even if you don't get a flu shot.

So let's hear your explanations, people. What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 19th, 2018, 10:49 am

You can find information on the flu vaccinations on this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=95&t=53198&p=2294623#p2294623
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 19th, 2018, 10:54 am

Pakistan is one of only three countries in the world, along with Nigeria and Afghanistan, that have failed to prevent the transmission of polio, according to the World Health Organization.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42738360
A tragic end to a mother and daughter that only wanted to help prevent a disease. Doesn't seem to be a way to educate those that refuse to listen.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 19th, 2018, 10:58 am

The P.E.I. government says it won't pay for a new, more effective vaccine against shingles.

Shingrix, which has shown to be about 90 per cent effective, was approved by Health Canada last year and should be available in some pharmacies by mid-January. The shingles vaccine now on the market, Zostavax, reduces the risk of shingles by 51 per cent, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.4475125

There are those advocating free vaccines to seniors but any age can get the disease once they've had chickenpox.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Thinktank » Jan 19th, 2018, 5:06 pm

Thinktank wrote:
So let's hear your explanations, people. What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"



Still waiting.

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 19th, 2018, 7:28 pm

A vaccine against hay fever could be ready within three years after human trials showed a major reduction in symptoms


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018 ... uccessful/

Wouldn't that be a relief!!
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby the truth » Jan 19th, 2018, 10:56 pm

Thinktank wrote:
Thinktank wrote:
So let's hear your explanations, people. What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"



Still waiting.

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 20th, 2018, 2:50 am

In Ontario, the Immunization of School Pupils Act requires all students attending school to be fully immunized against diphtheria, tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis (whooping cough), varicella (chickenpox) and meningococcal disease. Parents whose child is missing one or more of these vaccinations should see their health care provider or contact the health unit to get any missing vaccine.

https://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/8 ... -children/

They don't want to suspend students - but they might.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 20th, 2018, 4:35 pm

Fancy wrote:
The P.E.I. government says it won't pay for a new, more effective vaccine against shingles.

Shingrix, which has shown to be about 90 per cent effective, was approved by Health Canada last year and should be available in some pharmacies by mid-January. The shingles vaccine now on the market, Zostavax, reduces the risk of shingles by 51 per cent, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.4475125

There are those advocating free vaccines to seniors but any age can get the disease once they've had chickenpox.


I've debated the cost effectiveness of the old shingles vaccine and decided it probably wasn't worth it.
The newer one, because it is more effective, might just convince me to get it.
Cost is a little high, I hope that comes down, but given the grief that it could prevent, might be worth while to me, maybe out of range for a lot of seniors. So it would be nice if the government would even partially cover the cost, so it might be $100 bucks instead of $200.

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 21st, 2018, 11:55 pm

For those who thought it was cool to not vaccinate your kids from MMR:Second case of measles at Chicago airport

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/potential- ... e=facebook
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Bsuds » Jan 22nd, 2018, 6:19 am

Silverstarqueen wrote:I've debated the cost effectiveness of the old shingles vaccine and decided it probably wasn't worth it.


Exactly my thoughts as well. At 35% it just doesn't seem to be cost effective.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 6:29 am

The current vaccine, Zostavax, reduces the risk of shingles by 51% and post-herpetic neuralgia by 67% for those 60 years and older.

https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVacci ... 070418.htm

Here's where the 35% comes in:

In adults vaccinated at age 60 years or older, vaccine efficacy wanes steeply the first year after vaccination, and protection by 6 years after vaccination is less than 35%. Therefore, adults receiving the vaccine before age 60 years might not be protected when their risks for herpes zoster and its complications are highest.


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingl ... ccine.html

When you see young people with shingles and the painfulness of it for months and months and the seniors that suffer, it makes one question choices.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 22nd, 2018, 6:42 am

I have heard of youngish people getting shingles and there is the debate that the childhood chicken pox vacc is increasing this chance. The other problem being for some people that their immune system just isn't working well, sometimes due to other medications they are taking.Even cannabis use can affect immune system.
This is also an issue with other vaccinations. The pneumococcal vaccination is less effective for people on certain medications during and following vaccination. It might also be a factor in say the flu vaccination not being as effective. So it's not always the fault of the vaccine if it isn't working 100%.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:11 am

The young people I know of that had shingles had chickenpox when they were younger.

Chickenpox deaths are extremely rare, but before a vaccine was available, there were about 5,000 hospitalizations a year in Canada due to the disease, which is characterized by red spots that develop into fluid-filled blisters. In addition, there can be fever, headache, a dry cough and irritability.

After a chickenpox vaccine was introduced to Canada more than a decade ago, hospitalizations fell by up to 84 per cent in some provinces, Dr. Salvadori said.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/pa ... cle593397/
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:14 am

Although chickenpox vaccines do contain a weakened version of the live virus, which can reactivate later in life and cause shingles, this is very rare, he said. "Nearly 99 percent of children who receive the vaccine will not get chickenpox at all," Schaffner told Live Science. "The remaining 1 percent who do get it will get a much milder version of it. Therefore, a vast majority of people receiving the immunization will not develop shingles later in life."

https://www.livescience.com/45804-chick ... ngles.html
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