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Re: Vaccinations

Postby kgcayenne » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:26 am

Someone is going to have to define what later in life actually is. Especially considering that the vaccine was only approved for NA use in 1995. The people born in 1995, are only 22, 23 years old. you may be willing to believe, but I’m not entirely certain that enough long-term studies have taken place. Even in Japan where this vaccine was first used in the 1970s I can’t take for face value those vaccinated even really qualify for later in life considering they’re only in their 40s right now. I’m in my 40s and I sure as hell am not ‘later’ in life.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:40 am

I believe the chicken pox vaccine was made available in Canada in 1999 but it was introduced into the first school (PEI I believe) in 2000 and in BC schools in 2004.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby kgcayenne » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:43 am

Our Canadian guinea pigs are even younger than the American ones.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am

Historically, shingles has mainly affected people over 60, but there does seem to be an increase in younger, healthy individuals getting the disease. There is some thought that this is due in part to the introduction of the chicken pox vaccine. The vaccine has been very effective at reducing the number of chicken pox cases and by extension, is expected to limit shingles cases in the future.

However, for those who had chicken pox before the rollout of the vaccine (young adults in their 20s and 30s specifically), they are being exposed to the virus less. The result is that their immune response to the virus decreases over time, which results in more cases of shingles later in life.


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Re: Vaccinations

Postby kgcayenne » Jan 22nd, 2018, 8:58 am

Were damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Why the anti and pros need to be such dicks is beyond me.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 9:06 am

I wouldn't exactly say the same thing (damned if we do, damned if we don’t) as at least since the introduction of the vaccination it has led to a decrease in hospitalizations - that is huge.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby kgcayenne » Jan 22nd, 2018, 9:14 am

A decrease for how long? The very first of the vaccinated individuals in Japan have barely even reached middle age. Let’s discuss this in another 20/30 years. I’m not exactly an optimist.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby the truth » Jan 22nd, 2018, 9:47 am

exactly...........
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 10:10 am

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby kgcayenne » Jan 22nd, 2018, 10:13 am

Current is not 20-30 years from now. Unless you used a time machine just now.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Fancy » Jan 22nd, 2018, 10:16 am

kgcayenne wrote:Current is not 20-30 years from now. Unless you used a time machine just now.

Wow - good guess. The article is dated October 17, 2017 so not exactly today's date either - still pretty current.

In children with leukemia who receive the live attenuated varicella vaccine, the subsequent incidence of zoster is lower than in children who have natural varicella infections.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jan 23rd, 2018, 7:23 am

Would be nice if this year's flu shot were more effective. The Aussie's warned us this year's flu was worse, but some people just don't believe it.

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Thinktank » Jan 24th, 2018, 2:54 pm

Thinktank wrote:
So let's hear your explanations, people. What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"

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I didn't think any of the 11.6 million Canadians who get a flu shot were capable of explaining what 10% effective means.

I see my other thread went into conspiracy forum. Now I'm asking a third time:

So let's hear your explanations, people. What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"

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Re: Vaccinations

Postby CapitalB » Jan 24th, 2018, 3:07 pm

What does it mean when a flu shot is 10% "effective?"

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EDIT: He even finger quotes effective for you.

Also if you want more information check out this guys video on immunizations and heard immunity.
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Re: Vaccinations

Postby Thinktank » Jan 24th, 2018, 3:24 pm

so on an average year.

100 people in one room all got flu shots. 2 of them got the flu. And five got alzheimers later in life.

100 people in another room never got flu shots. 3 of them got the flu. And one got alzheimers later in life.

Was the flu shot effective?
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