Anti-bullying - the new bully on the block

[The Green Barbarian]

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/1614295305001

[Symbonite]

Interesting and what I was thinking myself..

Getting bullied into wearing pink as a anti bully.

[OnTheRoadAgain]

Nobody's bullied into wearing pink.

[Veovis]

Nope they aren't. They are simply labled as insensitive, uncaring, or bullies themselves if they don't, but I can see how telling a kid he is a horrible person because he wore a blue shirt that day isn't any kind of bullying it's just if you say you are for something you can be a jerk to anyone else?

I don't think people really relaize that there is some guy out there making all these little rubber bracelets and pinks shirts getting nicely wealthy while people "support" a cause. That guy doesn't care about bullies so you know, he cares about his profits.

[The Green Barbarian]

Nobody's bullied into wearing pink.

That's just plain not true.

[Bagotricks]

So by this logic, we bully pregnant women into not drinking alcohol? Bully people into not smoking cigarettes?

It's positive social pressure, not bullying.

Bullying is NEGATIVE behavior. Encouraging people not to bully people is not bullying.

Of course, leave it to SUN to try and draw lines of division over something so basic. I wonder if they can tie immigrants or the CBC into the story somehow - or guns!

[OnTheRoadAgain]

Thanks Bago-you got it.

[The Green Barbarian]

It's positive social pressure, not bullying.

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"Positive social pressure" - now there's a social engineering double-speak term if I ever heard one. We're going to bully you into doing something, and make you feel awful if you don't do it, but we'll call it "positive social pressure" so therefore, it's not bullying. :127:

[Bagotricks]

Like I said, I suppose we also "bully" pregnant women not to drink alcohol or "bully" children into not being racist.

Of course, if you believe that bulling isn't a problem (builds character? - is this 1952?) and that its ok to be racist to a point then of course SUN TV will play into the stories a person with values like that wants to hear.

[grammafreddy]

So by this logic, we bully pregnant women into not drinking alcohol? Bully people into not smoking cigarettes?

It's positive social pressure, not bullying.

Bullying is NEGATIVE behavior. Encouraging people not to bully people is not bullying.

Of course, leave it to SUN to try and draw lines of division over something so basic. I wonder if they can tie immigrants or the CBC into the story somehow - or guns!

Bago- you are priceless.

It's positive social pressure, not bullying.

My ass it isn't bullying. It most definitely IS bullying. When a school full of kids decides (through some smart marketing program) they all should "support the cause" and wear pink shirts one day of the year and one or two kids don't follow along with that "social pressure", they are being bullied into doing what all the other kids are doing - standing up in a visual way for the cause. They are made to feel bad and are pressured into doing what the other kids do so the heat doesn't land on them. That's bullying. Your "positive social pressure" is just as GB said ... "a social engineering double-speak term if I ever heard one".

[The Green Barbarian]

Like I said, I suppose we also "bully" pregnant women not to drink alcohol or "bully" children into not being racist.

Do we force kids to wear brightly coloured shirts and listen to foul-mouthed lecturers yelling at them to stop them from drinking while pregnant? Do we force kids to wear shirts and be yelled at by lecturers to stop them from being racist? The point is, this whole "anti-bullying" crusade has taken on a life of its own, and gotten so ridiculous that there is more bullying going on in the name of anti-bullying than actual bullying. Plus, the whole term "bullying" has been so usurped by the radical leftist movement that it is pulled out at every given opportunity, be it a misguided teacher in Victoria forcing her Grade 1 kids to write letters to the government to tell them to stop "bullying" teachers (meanwhile her union is one of the biggest bullies in BC) and David Suzuki runs around crying about being "bullied" because he is being asked to actually disclose where his "donations" come from. You don't like being held accountable, and you are a radical leftist? Cry "Bullying"! It's the new way to get out of everything. I don't want to pay my taxes, but those mean bullies at the CRA are making me! Shame on them. It's become beyond silly, and trying to explain it away as "positive social pressure" is just plain nonsense.

[Bagotricks]

My ass it isn't bullying. It most definitely IS bullying. When a school full of kids decides (through some smart marketing program) they all should "support the cause" and wear pink shirts one day of the year and one or two kids don't follow along with that "social pressure", they are being bullied into doing what all the other kids are doing - standing up in a visual way for the cause. They are made to feel bad and are pressured into doing what the other kids do so the heat doesn't land on them. That's bullying. Your "positive social pressure" is just as GB said ... "a social engineering double-speak term if I ever heard one".

So, people posy hurtful pictures on Facebook, destroy the social lives and assualt people not wearing pink shirts, sometimes even to the point that they commit suicide?

Got some links to those incidents?

People shouldn't feel bad for thinking its ok to bully?

If you live in a society and wish to be antisocial, do not expect a hug. Bullying is wrong. You don't have to wear a pink shirt to agree with that. If you want to walk around and pretend bullying is awesome, don't expect a hug from the community.

Now, shall we go back into some threads about immigrants and how you "feel" THEY should behave, or is that too much double speak social engineering for you?

[grammafreddy]

Like I said, I suppose we also "bully" pregnant women not to drink alcohol or "bully" children into not being racist.

Of course, if you believe that bulling isn't a problem (builds character? - is this 1952?) and that its ok to be racist to a point then of course SUN TV will play into the stories a person with values like that wants to hear.

Now, you see .......... YOU are being a bully in support of anti-bullying. YOU are saying if I do not agree with you then I support bullying (which of course is totally asinine reasoning). You (the bully) are trying to make me (the one you are bullying) do what you want me to do (give in to your *smirk* positive social pressure).

Your positive social pressure is the vehicle YOU use to bully me.

[Bagotricks]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying

Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power. It can include verbal harassment, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability.[2][3] The "imbalance of power" may be social power and/or physical power. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a "target".

Please show where people are being effected in the above way for not wearing pink shirts.

Do the police bully people not to speed? Or is it in everyone's best interest for people not to speed? If I give a dirty look to someone driving 180km/hr down the road am I a bully or am I disapproving of NEGATIVE behavior?

You cant make up definitions to suit your own needs.

Up until the last few years Bullying has been a untouched problem in society. Just listen to the masses of people who think its ok. I like that its out in the open and on the front burner. Kids are cruel, and we FOSTER bullies in the workplace. Time for social change and this is where it starts.

[The Green Barbarian]

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