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Re: September 11

Postby Fancy » Jun 2nd, 2012, 3:24 pm

kompili wrote:Is this from the media, or from a Bogus government site, like most of the things you post.


:coffeecanuck: The fact that WTC7 building collapsed isn't bogus. Good grief, get out in the real world once in a while. If you've been to ground zero you wouldn't be saying that. You're too funny!
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Re: September 11

Postby kompili » Jun 2nd, 2012, 3:37 pm

They lied about Iraq and Afghanistan and just about everything else. Why are we willing to accept their version of 9/11 that made it all possible?

Initially, most of us fell for their version of the events.
But then came the slip-ups. The leaseholder of the World Trade Center admitted on PBS in 'Rebuilding America' that WTC-7 was 'pulled' on 9/11 (See video here in Windows Media Format), which is the standard slang for controlled demolition.

Look at the tapes from that day when TV anchors, Aaron Brown and Dan Rather first said the very same words about the collapses. Firefighters and rescue workers talked about explosives and bombs going off, all over in the buildings.
Recall the horrific images of the over 100-story towers coming down at free-fall speed, defying the laws of physics.
Recall the engineers who first stated that the planes and fires alone could not have caused the deadly collapse.
Now the evidence is gone, witnesses silenced, and an independent, real investigation never happened. Sure, it is hard to accept that we have all been fooled so long, but only discovering and facing the truth will set the U.S. free.


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Re: September 11

Postby Fancy » Jun 2nd, 2012, 3:48 pm

Some witnesses refused to talk because invariably their words were taken out of context. Recollections and memories aren't 100% infallible either.
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Re: September 11

Postby kompili » Jun 2nd, 2012, 6:21 pm

People wake up

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Re: September 11

Postby Fancy » Jun 2nd, 2012, 6:39 pm

Yup, too bad she didn't turn around but she probably still wouldn't have recognized the mistake made. Happens in the reporting world when the situation is so intense.
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Re: September 11

Postby kompili » Jun 2nd, 2012, 6:58 pm

Sure is funny how they new it was going to fall before it happened. A crystal ball, or did they know it, already planned.
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Re: September 11

Postby Fancy » Jun 2nd, 2012, 7:00 pm

Premonition maybe? That does happen. Women's intuition works just as well. Funny though she finds the whole thing a total blur. Too much information to the brain.
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Re: September 11

Postby GenesisGT » Jun 2nd, 2012, 7:01 pm

It is funny how they can report that way, heck the north tower reflection can still be seen on WTC 7, that to me is the bigger conspiracy.
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Re: September 11

Postby kompili » Jun 4th, 2012, 1:15 pm

News, analysis and primary source documents on terrorism, extremism and national security.

Thursday, May 31, 2012

Exclusive: CIA Documents on 9/11
The CIA has released nearly 800 pages of newly declassified documents on Al Qaeda and the September 11 attacks.

The documents were released in response to an INTELWIRE Freedom of Information Act request for material referenced by the 9/11 Commission. Numerous documents were withheld, and those that were released have been heavily redacted. Despite this, it is highly unusual to receive any material from the CIA in response to a FOIA request, and they provide a fascinating look at the state of the agency's understanding of Al Qaeda over the years.

While much of the material has been previously described, by the 9/11 Commission and other sources, seeing the actual documents still has an impact. For instance, the following extracts:


http://news.intelwire.com/2012/05/exclu ... n-911.html
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Re: September 11

Postby peaceseeker » Jun 6th, 2012, 9:36 am

DEBUNKING THE REAL 9/11 MYTHS
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-secti ... .html.html
Written by Adam Taylor
Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:41

WHY POPULAR MECHANICS CAN’T FACE UP TO REALITY

Part 4: Puffs of Dust
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Re: September 11

Postby French Castanut » Jun 6th, 2012, 3:46 pm

Passion4Truth wrote:
Au contraire, mon frère.

Transcript and sources:
http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/


:ohmygod: Someone speaks en français in here! That's a conspiracy for sure!!! :sillygrin:

Actually I was looking for sandraN.. from the "Hi my name is.." thread and I landed in here.

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Re: September 11

Postby Ranger66 » Jun 7th, 2012, 9:18 am

“Kevin Ryan’s points:
• There was no piston mechanism possible in the falling towers because there was no internal shaft and the upper section was disintegrating as it fell.
• The disintegration front was characterized by the explosive ejection of material outward, and the resulting cloud-like debris could not have formed a continuous surface to apply pressure to the air below.
• Any pressure created would not be contained within a single floor, but would have been distributed over many floors in the lower section and probably would have vented into the external atmosphere as well.
• The high-speed bursts seen early in the “collapse” could not have been produced by air pressure alone, as the pressure could not have risen substantially at the time when they occurred.
• The similar size, shape and velocity of the bursts are not consistent with the fact that any pressure created would have been rising as the debris fell.
• The point-like sources of these bursts cannot be explained.
• The debris that was ejected at the lower levels could not have been created as a result of the air pressure alone, and could also not have been created by the falling mass above, which would have required more time to arrive and was already traveling at nearly free-fall speed.”

Clearly Mr. Ryan lacks any knowledge of mechanical engineering.

• “The horizontal ejection rate of the squibs is disproportional to their vertical fall rate.
• The debris from the ejections from Tower’s collapses caused widespread damage.
• The debris from the ejections evidently shot out up to ¼ mile away”

If this is true then it was not a controlled demolition.

1,700+ architects and engineers who have signed on to a petition at AE911Truth demanding a new scientific investigation of the towers’ destruction."

So why don’t they just do it themselves, a lack of evidence?
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Re: September 11

Postby peaceseeker » Jun 7th, 2012, 10:31 am

Ranger66 wrote:http://forums.castanet.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35445&start=1815#p1269471


Since you seem to like Kevin Ryan's writings so much here's some more for ya...
http://911review.com/articles/ryan/index.html

There have been many studies done and papers written that question the 'official story' given to the events of Sept 11, 2001. Clearly you'd rather not accept any of the findings/concerns as being true/valid.

Journal of 9/11 Studies
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

The Corbett Report - 35 Reasons to Question 9/11
http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-19 ... stion-911/

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Re: September 11

Postby Ranger66 » Jun 7th, 2012, 12:15 pm

Just site after site of misinformation. No facts, you have “1,700+ architects and engineers”
And not one of them can come up with verifiable facts to put forward.
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Re: September 11

Postby kompili » Jun 7th, 2012, 1:01 pm

Ranger66 wrote:Just site after site of misinformation. No facts, you have “1,700+ architects and engineers”
And not one of them can come up with verifiable facts to put forward.


Do you have any proof of this. Or are you making assumption again.
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