Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlement
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The Green Barbarian wrote:No clue. I took German in school. Wie gehts! As Bismarck, the German politician once said, "I only visit Paris during war time".
Ok so here is a basic French lesson:
Translation:
-Qui est le Premier Ministre du Québec?
-Qui est le Premier Ministre du Canada?
-Who's Quebec Premier?
-Who's Canada Prime Minister?
See.. in French it's the same word for both.. cuz both are prime minister.. one of a province, and another one of a country.
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Thanks FC. That helps to explain your confusion.
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A quarter of a million people all united for the same cause, whether we choose to agree with it or not
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You use the word 'cause' lightly. There is no cause, whether you choose to agree with 'it' or not. These are truly rebels without a cause.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/30/george-jonas-riots-never-make-sense-but-quebecs-lack-even-a-noble-cause/
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/30/george-jonas-riots-never-make-sense-but-quebecs-lack-even-a-noble-cause/
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Homeownertoo wrote:You use the word 'cause' lightly. There is no cause, whether you choose to agree with 'it' or not. These are truly rebels without a cause.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/30/george-jonas-riots-never-make-sense-but-quebecs-lack-even-a-noble-cause/
I agree somewhat with the article, especially how it starts off with "Wars are instigated by the old, but engaged in mostly by the young." I also agree that protests are a bit pointless. I wrote of the same view during the Occupy Wall St. movement.
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From that article:
What a fine piece of prose, that sums up our rapidly diminishing and irrelevant post-secondary educations perfectly.
The young of every generation who have more energy than judgment — in our times, aggravated by diploma factories educating students beyond their intellectual means, and flooding their limited analytical and moral capacity with liberal infusions of quasi-Marxist sewage until it overflows into terminal self-righteousness.
What a fine piece of prose, that sums up our rapidly diminishing and irrelevant post-secondary educations perfectly.
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Ok, that is one of the points I disagree on for the following reason:
How does that view relate to the fact that we currently have a Conservative majority in Canada and yet the Harper government is proposing a complete loss of this country's sovereignty through a recent bill (C-38) which grants the United states lawful access to arrest Canadian citizens on Canadian soil? :http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/the-tale-of-2012s-omnibus-budget-bill/article4249856/
You suggest that the "leftist" view is going to be this country's demise and that the only thing holding that demise back is conservatism. That's true, because once the Conservatives are done, there will be no country left to fall into demise.
How does that view relate to the fact that we currently have a Conservative majority in Canada and yet the Harper government is proposing a complete loss of this country's sovereignty through a recent bill (C-38) which grants the United states lawful access to arrest Canadian citizens on Canadian soil? :http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/the-tale-of-2012s-omnibus-budget-bill/article4249856/
You suggest that the "leftist" view is going to be this country's demise and that the only thing holding that demise back is conservatism. That's true, because once the Conservatives are done, there will be no country left to fall into demise.
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I'm not seeing much difference between these current "protesters" and the FLQ "terrorists." With each group there's a manifesto, a willingness to use violence to further their ends, and a disregard for democracy as well as the rights of others.
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How does that view relate to the fact that we currently have a Conservative majority in Canada and yet the Harper government is proposing a complete loss of this country's sovereignty through a recent bill (C-38) which grants the United states lawful access to arrest Canadian citizens on Canadian soil?
That's just a spin interpretation based on hyperbole, it doesn't do that at all....
– Allow U.S. federal law enforcement agents participating in cross-border operations to arrest Canadians on Canadian soil;
Joint Canadian/US cross border operations are nothing new. It's just clarifying what should have been clarified years ago but is becoming much more important now with the growth in cross border drug trafficing.
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kina wrote:You suggest that the "leftist" view is going to be this country's demise and that the only thing holding that demise back is conservatism. That's true, because once the Conservatives are done, there will be no country left to fall into demise.
It's beyond leftist now, the tenured sociology, english, arts etc dimtwits are now going into full-blown Marxist dogma, which is why after the hockey game on Saturday, because I left the TV on CBC, and came back in the room to find the news on, I saw the leading story being a bunch of kids protesting the F1. When asked why, one of the poor little mush-heads said "Because I hate capitalism". Now where would this little bozo get such stupid ideas from? From his idiot professors of course. This crap has to stop.
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Urbane wrote:I'm not seeing much difference between these current "protesters" and the FLQ "terrorists." With each group there's a manifesto, a willingness to use violence to further their ends, and a disregard for democracy as well as the rights of others.
I agree in a sense. Protests are meant to be a way of allowing individuals to practice their democratic rights, not force others to act according to their opinion.
NAB wrote:quote– Allow U.S. federal law enforcement agents participating in cross-border operations to arrest Canadians on Canadian soil;/quote
Joint Canadian/US cross border operations are nothing new. It's just clarifying what should have been clarified years ago but is becoming much more important now with the growth in cross border drug trafficking.
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There is a big difference between working together with Americans to bring down criminals and letting an American have the jurisdiction to arrest a Canadian on Canadian soil. That's a pretty straightforward statement which shows how much power the states have over Canada. You don't hear that Canadians can arrest Americans on American soil.
The Green Barbarian wrote:It's beyond leftist now, the tenured sociology, english, arts etc dimtwits are now going into full-blown Marxist dogma, which is why after the hockey game on Saturday, because I left the TV on CBC, and came back in the room to find the news on, I saw the leading story being a bunch of kids protesting the F1. When asked why, one of the poor like mush-heads said "Because I hate capitalism". Now where would this little bozo get such stupid ideas from? From his idiot professors of course. This crap has to stop.
That I can agree with you on. There is something wrong with some of the professors in schools. Young people need to be taught to understand all sides of these issues properly before they can be capable of making a decent argument and thus decision. But saying that they are inadequate to learn about it or are too juvenile to understand is a prejudiced remark. Given the right tools, they are as capable as any older person. Regardless of whether they choose capitalism or not, they are the ones to whom this world will be left to. I think we need to realize that sooner rather than later and get onto helping them, not criticizing them.
Personally, I would love to see that an independent body is established which will "check" the impartiality of professors in universities. I remember one of my university friends speaking about how biased professors are and how they implement their own personal views into the teaching as though it is fact. This definitely needs to change.
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It's beyond leftist now, the tenured sociology, english, arts etc dimtwits are now going into full-blown Marxist dogma, which is why after the hockey game on Saturday, because I left the TV on CBC, and came back in the room to find the news on, I saw the leading story being a bunch of kids protesting the F1. When asked why, one of the poor little mush-heads said "Because I hate capitalism". Now where would this little bozo get such stupid ideas from? From his idiot professors of course. This crap has to stop.
Maybe it's because I went to U of C, under Tom Flanagan, but I think the mushhead interviewed was likely not a university student. More likely he is a career protester/waste of skin.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:It's beyond leftist now, the tenured sociology, english, arts etc dimtwits are now going into full-blown Marxist dogma, which is why after the hockey game on Saturday, because I left the TV on CBC, and came back in the room to find the news on, I saw the leading story being a bunch of kids protesting the F1. When asked why, one of the poor little mush-heads said "Because I hate capitalism". Now where would this little bozo get such stupid ideas from? From his idiot professors of course. This crap has to stop.
Or maybe they are capable of thinking for themselves and came to that conclusion of their own accord. I certainly never had teachers putting down Capitalism. I figured out it's not a sustainable, long term model on my own. I resent being told if one's ideas are different from your own then they are indoctrinated or brainwashed.
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jennylives wrote:Or maybe they are capable of thinking for themselves and came to that conclusion of their own accord. I certainly never had teachers putting down Capitalism. I figured out it's not a sustainable, long term model on my own. I resent being told if one's ideas are different from your own then they are indoctrinated or brainwashed.
Yet, you profit from capitalism and enjoy the social services paid for by capitalism every day. How odd.
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Anyone who lives on planet Earth does. It's the only system we have. It's not like you can go set up shop in the bush and self sustain, you need permits and land deeds for that.
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