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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby kina » Jun 14th, 2012, 6:56 am

^^^Excellent link!:

http://www.mediacoop.ca/story/meet-canada%E2%80%99s-ruling-oligarchy-parasites-plenty/10917 wrote:Meet Canada’s Ruling Oligarchy: Parasites-a-Plenty!
Class War and the College Crisis, Part 7
by Andrew Gavin Marshall

Part 1: The “Crisis of Democracy” and the Attack on Education
Part 2: The Purpose of Education: Social Uplift or Social Control?
Part 3: Of Prophets, Power, and the Purpose of Intellectuals
Part 4: Student Strikes, Debt Domination, and Class War in Canada
Part 5: Canada’s Economic Collapse and Social Crisis
Part 6: The Québec Student Strike: From ‘Maple Spring’ to Summer Rebellion?

Our Parasitic Elite

Canada’s elite, like all elites, are parasitic to the social good and wellbeing of the people. They own the banks and financial institutions, own our central bank which sets the interest rates, gives loans and collect on debt, pushing people deeper into servitude and slavery; poverty as punishment. They control our media, which shapes our views and ‘opinions,’ they sit on the boards of our universities, putting future generations into debt before they have a chance at life, and control the ‘knowledge economy’ for which they have defined the purpose of education. They influence and control our governments and political leaders, sit on the boards of the think tanks that write policy and promote political agendas, they run the foundations and claim themselves to be benevolent philanthropists, when philanthropy is at best, moral masturbation for the wealthy, a way to feel good about their vast disparity of wealth, and at its more organized levels, is simply a means through which to engage in social engineering and social control: to give a little in order to continue taking so much. The profit off of the foreign wars our country wages and supports, blood plunderers of the Congo, Afghanistan, and Libya. The Canadian elite rule the country as a proxy for the American Empire, acting as a resource suction-cup for the behemoth below us, providing the United States with most of its oil, water, electricity, and timber. These rapacious parasites claim they hold the answers to the crises they cause and profit from; a super-class which can only be understood as a sprawling, venomous, and vacuous social succubus.

With a massive student movement in Quebec nearing its fourth month of strikes against tuition increases, the media has set against them in a massive propaganda campaign, the legal system has set against them in declaring injunctions against picketing students, the provincial state has dismissed, derided, and engaged in fallacious negotiations designed only to win public sympathy for the government, while the police have been incredibly oppressive against the youth: employing pepper spray, tear gas, smoke bombs, concussion grenades, beatings with batons, mass arrests, shooting students in the face with rubber bullets, and a disturbing trend of driving police cars and trucks into crowds of students. These are images you expect from a military dictatorship like Egypt, but not from a supposed “democracy” like Canada. In the midst of this social upheaval and state repression, the propaganda campaign against the students has been so successful that the majority of public opinion stands with the government and against the youth. Through every institution, and with every means made available, the elite have set themselves against the student movement. It is time the students and Canada at large recognize our elite for what they are: parasites!

While this rhetoric is perhaps a little inflammatory, it remains apt. A parasite is much smaller than its host, and it benefits at the expense of the host, changing its behaviour and health. The word “parasite” comes from the Latin word parasitus which is itself derived from the Greek word, parasitos, meaning, “one who eats at the table of another.” The elite have been eating at our table for far too long. They have long over-stayed their welcome. It’s time to make it known that we have no patience or place for them at our table any longer. This will not be easy, this will not be simple; this will take a long time and a great deal of effort. But if we don’t start now, if we don’t begin to take and create a society of, by, and for the people (what was once referred to as ‘democracy’), then elite parasitism will continue to sap the strength, health, environment, wealth, and the very hope and lives of future generations. They will continue to spread like a social cancer until the host is dead.

The youth are always told that the future is ours, but that remains up to us to make it so. The past and the present belong to the parasites, so if we do not stand up and struggle now and forever, we have no future to inherit, no world in which to grow and no hope in which to gaze. We have only debt bondage, state violence, table scraps, impoverishment, punishment, and oppression. The youth in Quebec are trying to just begin to stand up, to say ‘No More!’ and demand for themselves and others a chance at a future. The success of the strike is secondary to the newly-discovered strength of the students. They have been dismissed and derided, insulted and oppressed, from the left and the right, from so-called Progressives and self-congratulating Libertarians. Because the students do not articulate the same philosophy as those of other critics, they are presented as naïve and ‘entitled.’ Those who insult and deride without empathy or understanding only expose their own naivety.

The fundamental and historical importance of the present situation in Québec is not the cost of tuition, it’s the mass mobilization of youth: it is an expression of a popular and growing dissatisfaction with the way things are and an articulation and drive to create something different, to chart a course for the way things can be. Those who fail to see and recognize that, fail to see the development of progress through history, not immediate, but evolving, not instant, but incremental and persistent. If nothing else, this generation can look back and say, “At least we tried. At least we started.”


It would be great if the Quebec students manage to find a more modernized way of protesting than standing outside with signs and acting like Nazis. That is why I think they are still too immature to fight this kind of complex battle. Especially given that they have been completely confused by the education system for most of their lives that their views are incoherent as best.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby Smurf » Jun 14th, 2012, 7:49 am

I look at these whinners and then at my daughter-in-law and have to laugh. She was out of the house with no support (separated parents) by the time she was 19. She worked at any job she could find and usually more than one at a time. She started University on her own and continued working and studying till she had her masters in math and science. Now she has a full time job and still works evenings and weekends to finish paying off her student loans. She did this in Alberta and BC where it isn't cheap. If these students got off their butts and put their energy into something useful they could do the same. Our society can not afford to pay for all of these things and there is no reason that perfectly healthy young people cannot go the extra mile to get the education they want. Yes they deserve an education but they do not deserve free secondary education. That is the time when they need to step up to the plate and start to help themselves.

My youngest grandaughter is going through the same thing right now. She has worked as a cashier and helper in a veterinary clinic, saving every penny she could while living on her own. This fall she starts her secondary education paying for it on her own although Grama and I are tossing in a few bucks which she knew nothing about ahead of time. We let her work it out herself and then surprised her when she made the decission. She will suceed and would have without our help.

As I said if these students put all this time and energy into something useful they and all of Canada would be a lot better off.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jun 14th, 2012, 8:35 am

Smurf wrote:
As I said if these students put all this time and energy into something useful they and all of Canada would be a lot better off.


amen Smurf. It takes guts, brains and drive to do things on your own, and it takes absolutely zero effort to demand that the government do everything for you. That's why these foolish students and the even more foolish professors guiding them are getting almost no respect from anyone outside of the usual suspects, who always support the lazy "let's get everyone else to pay for us" mentality. It's a loser ideology, and has always failed, everywhere it's been tried. Good on your family for instilling such a great work ethic, sounds like you are raising some future leaders there, who are worth following, unlike this complete waste of skin:

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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby sooperphreek » Jun 14th, 2012, 2:23 pm

its funny how the disparaging "nanny state" comments are always made so freely in regards to average citizens. i personally think that it is even a worse problem in regards to banks and large companies. if these entities truly had to make it on their own without being propped up by the government - they would have disappeared long ago. if there was indeed competition in banks and companies - the ones we have would have been swallowed up long ago by the Chinese, the euro coalition and others. or they would have died a tragic death and there would have been another to take their place. we should have let the banks collapse back in the 90's but instead we let them assimilate other ones to hemorrhage and hide their dire finances and continue a facade. all in the name of being competitive......but in the end there was a meltdown - so were they indeed competitive at all? as a result i feel that the students should be like what they see out there and hold out their hands for a piece of the pie. god knows that the banks and companies will.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jun 14th, 2012, 2:43 pm

sooperphreek wrote: we should have let the banks collapse back in the 90's .


what the hell are you talking about? Which banks? Not the Canadian ones. They weren't then, and aren't now, anywhere close to collapse. This is just so silly.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby sooperphreek » Jun 14th, 2012, 3:03 pm

if they were in no danger as you say....then there was no reason for our banks to merger or swallow up others and get larger to be "competitive" worldwide as they put it in the 90's. all that was accomplished was that there was less competition for the consumer and more liquidity for banks to be irresponsible with. which has been apparent as of late with the collapse. the issues we face today didnt happen overnight. there has been many things that contributed to where we are now. and banks getting bigger so they wouldn't collapse and be ineffective worldwide is one of them. the other is that the banks were so big that they began to dictate what our government did and did not do with impunity.

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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jun 14th, 2012, 3:15 pm

sooperphreek wrote:if they were in no danger as you say....then there was no reason for our banks to merger or swallow up others and get larger to be "competitive" worldwide as they put it in the 90's.


there were business reasons for them to make acquistions for sure, but that's a far cry from saying they would have collapsed. The two issues are completely different. You do understand that much right?
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby sooperphreek » Jun 14th, 2012, 3:30 pm

i do understand what you are trying to say. unfortunately i strongly believe that we are bashing students for a severe case of entitlement and we are not doing the same with the banks. because we have a system where manageable debt is the norm i stand by my thoughts that the banks would have collapsed. if they were not able to compete on a world stage and they were national they would have been chaff and disappeared from a small consumer base and too much debt. instead they were injected with liquid money and they miss managed that to collapse. the reason i say miss managed - is that the banks are so colluded that even the Canadian ones cant pass themselves off as spotless lambs.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby Homeownertoo » Jun 14th, 2012, 5:17 pm

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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby Homeownertoo » Jun 14th, 2012, 5:19 pm

sooperphreek wrote:its funny how the disparaging "nanny state" comments are always made so freely in regards to average citizens. i personally think that it is even a worse problem in regards to banks and large companies. if these entities truly had to make it on their own without being propped up by the government ... blah blah blah.

Some people will never learn. Too bad their message that someone else is always to blame is so appealing to a good slice of the young and restless.
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jun 15th, 2012, 8:43 am

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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby dudlee » Jul 23rd, 2012, 9:17 am

My favorite was when the students went to Ontario schools for support and the Ontario students told them to f-off and threw tomatoes and egges at them , while calling them Spoiled Brats .

Of course the CBC didn"t play that on the TV being mainly run by Quebec Radio Separatists
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jul 23rd, 2012, 9:27 am

dudlee wrote:My favorite was when the students went to Ontario schools for support and the Ontario students told them to f-off and threw tomatoes and egges at them , while calling them Spoiled Brats .

Of course the CBC didn"t play that on the TV being mainly run by Quebec Radio Separatists


ha ha - yeah all you read on lefty websites is how the Ontario students are "in solidarity" (solidarity being a favorite radical leftist buzzword) with the Quebec students, when this is just complete bunk. How can any student outside of Quebec sympathize with these entitled brats? They have the lowest tuition in Canada! And it's all subsidized by transfer payments from the rest of Canada! And these losers are still whining!
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Re: Quebec students suffering from severe case of entitlemen

Postby sooperphreek » Jul 23rd, 2012, 11:10 am

hey. dont be jealous because you paid too much to learn bad business practices and status quo in our post secondary system.
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