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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby zookeeper » Jul 23rd, 2012, 4:37 pm

Do you not have collision?
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Babbitman » Jul 23rd, 2012, 4:38 pm

Well, that'll teach ya not to back over things that are off the roadway.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby _smiley » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:01 pm

freshsue wrote:
It cost me $1250 + taxes just to replace my "in tank" fuel pump. AND, I didn't hit anything, it was just normal wear and perhaps dirty gas.
What year is your car? Are you sure that the wheel alignment was not required prior to your accident? Control arm? When the damage was to the rear of the car? Isn't the control arm in the front of the car? I don't know, I am not really automotively inclined, just asking.
I am sure that these questions will be brought up during any investigation/law-suit.
Also, any place that you take your vehicle for repairs should be approved by ICBC and be prepared to sign a document to support your claims of damage.


The place is ICBC approved, but I have decided not to continue with a claim against the city. There are 2 Rear Control Arms that are bent, attatched to my back driver's side tire. I have a 92 Toyota Camry. I went to Auto Place on Springfield and their total estimate was just over 1500. So I'm going with what they tell me. No wheel alignment was required, I had on in June when I put on new summer tires, as I have stated before, there was absolutely nothing wrong with my car (no pulling, noises, anything) before this accident.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby MAPearce » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:05 pm

so , next time you pull in to a 'pullout' or whatever with the intent to turn around ...look where you want to turn when you pull in ..

A hard way to learn a lesson , i agree, but it's one worth learning ...
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Babbitman » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:05 pm

:dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing: This is all over a '92 Camry?
Take it to ICBC. They'll write it off and give you a check for a couple hun.
All this fuss, and its a 92 Toyota?
Its over 20 years old, for crying out loud.
Give it up.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Bsuds » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:09 pm

Babbitman wrote::dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing: This is all over a '92 Camry?
Take it to ICBC. They'll write it off and give you a check for a couple hun.
All this fuss, and its a 92 Toyota?
Its over 20 years old, for crying out loud.
Give it up.
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At the very most it's worth $1800.

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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Ken7 » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:51 pm

waterwings wrote:First things first: How do you know that the City put the cement block there? Prove it!



The City is responsible to keep roads safe for travel!! They could be held responsible if one pushed it.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Roadster » Jul 23rd, 2012, 5:52 pm

_smiley wrote:Did I not say before that many posts were constructive and to the point without making jokes or being outright rude? Roadster, you are taking things far too personally.

Ya, thats right,,, this isnt personal for me,,, it would be for you tho if you let it be, you the one who got damage to your car. I just tried to be nice and apologise to you but you stomped on it cos all you care about is that pat on the back you want. Sorry I would rather not tell you its ok, I would rather tell you its a little learning lesson to save you from something worse, if you take time to see it. I woulda swallowed my pride 7 pages ago and said "Ya,,, so glad it wasnt something else,,, will look behind me next time"
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby gordon_as » Jul 23rd, 2012, 6:47 pm

Too bad you don't have a friend that could go to pick and pull , get you the control arms , and install them for a case of beer. As for the gas tank , if it is dented no worries , if it is gouged to the point it could leak by all means replace it but $1500 is too much to spend on your 92 Camry. Sorry. Not trying to be a jerk , just being realistic. I have sold better , newer cars for less.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby Roadster » Jul 23rd, 2012, 6:59 pm

Ken7
The City is responsible to keep roads safe for travel!! They could be held responsible if one pushed it.


Responsible yes, but pay for a three point turn on an area like that? Nope, cant see it happening. They might remove the block tho once brought to their attention, and they probably should.

gordon_as wrote:Too bad you don't have a friend that could go to pick and pull , get you the control arms , and install them for a case of beer. As for the gas tank , if it is dented no worries , if it is gouged to the point it could leak by all means replace it but $1500 is too much to spend on your 92 Camry. Sorry. Not trying to be a jerk , just being realistic. I have sold better , newer cars for less.


I agree, looks like she is possibly being taken for a ride. This could be done for lots less if she takes the time to look at the situation.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby _smiley » Jul 24th, 2012, 12:00 am

You're right Roadster, I am glad it wasn't a child. But that was never the point of this thread, because it wasn't a child. And I never, not even once, asked for a pat on the back. I asked, and got, opinions about whether the City should be at fault for putting a cement block where it doesn't belong. Some agreed with my point of view, others didn't. That's all I was ever looking for. I don't care which side you're on, but I never asked for everyone to side with me. Get real.

As for the comments on the age of my car, etc, I like my car, and will fix it. And I have had a bad experience with a mechanic who worked out of his back yard. Installed a pipe and apparently forgot a few screws and to seal the god damn thing. Thankfully the guys at Auto Place saw this screw up while doing some maintenance. I'd rather pay people who are ICBC approved to do something, not someone who will do a half-assed job for a case of beer. But that's just my opinion.

So that's it, that's all, folks. Much ado about nothing, I guess. My question turned into a ridiculous argument about pretty much nothing.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby dogspoiler » Jul 24th, 2012, 9:23 am

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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby delSol97 » Jul 24th, 2012, 9:34 am

Oddly enough Camry control arms are a tad expensive .. having said that, it still seems like a Pick N Pull job. A control arm is a pretty basic job, just a couple bolts. Seriously your dad or boyfriend or something should be able to help you with this. Then just pay for an alignment.

Is the gas tank cracked? Are you driving it still?

Not trying to offend you, but it seems pointless to me to dump $1500 in to a $1500 car.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby OnTheRoadAgain » Jul 24th, 2012, 10:44 am

zookeeper wrote:Do you not have collision?

That would be 'comprehensive'.
Collision covers accidents with other vehicles.
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Re: Should the City of Kelowna be held responsible?

Postby LordEd » Jul 24th, 2012, 11:03 am

http://www.icbc.com/autoplan/optional/optional-vehicle/collision wrote:Collision coverage pays for repairs to your vehicle when it's damaged in a crash. It also gives you a payout if your vehicle is written off in a claim, no matter who was at fault.
What's included

Collision coverage applies when

you hit another vehicle, person, object or the surface of the road
the vehicle needs towing, storage, or salvage disposal as a result of a claim for loss or damage

Depending on the type of vehicle, deductibles may start at only $300 for Collision coverage.

Note: Motorists with a history of at-fault crashes may only be able to buy Collision insurance with a high deductible, or may not qualify for this coverage.
http://www.icbc.com/autoplan/optional/optional-vehicle/comprehensive wrote:Comprehensive covers loss or damage to your vehicle (direct and accidental) that's not covered by Collision insurance. This includes

theft, vandalism and malicious mischief
“missiles” and falling or flying objects such as a rock or gravel hitting your windshield
hitting a domestic or wild animal
weather—lightning, windstorm, hail, rising water and fire
earthquake
civil commotion or riots
the stranding, sinking, burning, derailment, upset or collision of a conveyance transporting your vehicle on land or water

I believe collision would be appropriate here as it would fall under "you hit another object"
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