R.I.P Amanda Todd

[OnTheRoadAgain]

She couldnt erase it but she should have been able to,,, dump the facebook account, she had moved to a new city,,, wash it all away not just your old city,,, all of it. The cops should have had that account.

How does one wash out memories in their mind, without heavy drugs to help combat the daily reminders of what one is trying to forget? Now, how does a child do that? Labotomy or brainwash, but even then...

That was their best but here we see there is more to do because their best didnt save her.

Thats right. But it doesn't make it their fault, although parents always feel that way

Bet if a parent would ban their child from the net for a year for showing their boobs, like as a punishment they would be better off down the road even if they hate it happening,,, lets say let her back onto other sites less apt to ask so much personal info and she uses names like we do here, her friends know her as that,,, would that be so bad? Would it be so bad if parents all said no to their kids using a site like facebook? Seems so but imagine those not stalked right to their homes,,, even their new homes like she was. She never escaped it because she didnt know how and now we know how. He shoulda never reached her a year later. Not if someone showed her how to protect herself properly. She was a kid, kids know the internet is huge,,, they dont know how dangerous it is, till they step into her shoes.

Punishment after the fact doesn't change the fact that it happened, and she couldn't stop it, the parents couldn't stop it, and the people wouldn't stop themselves. They were entertained by their own abuse.
You can't just take a computer away from a teen and make everything better. The problem is in the mind.


I remember my parents telling us as kids how bad people can be and that was why we were not allowed out after certain hours, especially in winter after dark till we hit a certain age,,, I remember thinking, awwww heck, they make that crap up to keep us from having fun. they just want control,,,, well that was when someone could be walking your street at night, now they dont have to leave their computer chair to find you and they are real and they can be a country away and still get to you if you suit them well.

That's right, The boogeyman used to come out at night time. The boogeyman is everywhere now..

[Roadster]

*try again without the off-topic personal attacks/Jo*

[keith1612]

it think it is brilliant that this thread has evolved away from a bullying battlecry into what the reality is. someone committed suicide and it is a tough issue to tackle. you can push bullying back.....but suicide leaves too many questions. thats why i think the focus was on the bullying at first.

this is 100% a bullying/pervert issue.
basically the same thing.
these scumbags took a 12 year old CHILD and sexually exploited and then humiliated her to the point of death.
only a plain idiot cant see that.
sure its one thing to be picked on a bit in school, this went far beyond that.
how can anyone as a grown adult not see and understand?
this isnt a ordinary plain unhappy child commiting suicide and only a moron would see it as that, she was driven to the brink by a sexual predator who picked,stalked and tortured a baby.
no this is not ordinary school bullying but it became that later when the scumbag went out of his way to post photo's.
this should be a 100% case of 1st degree murder if they catch him as he on purpose drove her to it.
strange if a RCMP pulls in front of a semi and gets killed chasing a robber the robber now becomes a murderer yet a sexual scumbag can do this and society thinks she's at fault.
the BC government went out of their way to arrest the school teacher released from a thiland prison (after doing his time) yet didnt deem this as important until she died and hit the news.
do i find that fake and garbage? 100% yes
the cops cared less till it hit the news.
Christy Clark cared less till election time.
what a shame.

[sooperphreek]

the moral of the story? be a responsible parent and keep your kids off facebook. and stop buying them phones and contracts that will proliferate the bullying. or....adapt to technology and make sure your kid has a thick skin for cyber bullying and half a brain to not seek it out being on the medium. the funny thing is that the government will bow to the pressure of the easy solution and crack down on what happens online. and will have a blind eye for the fact that kids have access to phones that is propagating this destructive behavior. why not charge parents who have their names co-signed on the phone contracts? maybe if parents got stung a few times you would see less kids with phones.

[keith1612]

the moral of the story? be a responsible parent and keep your kids off facebook. and stop buying them phones and contracts that will proliferate the bullying. or....adapt to technology and make sure your kid has a thick skin for cyber bullying and half a brain to not seek it out being on the medium. the funny thing is that the government will bow to the pressure of the easy solution and crack down on what happens online. and will have a blind eye for the fact that kids have access to phones that is propagating this destructive behavior. why not charge parents who have their names co-signed on the phone contracts? maybe if parents got stung a few times you would see less kids with phones.

Yes thats the answer, blame the parents, blame cell phones, blame the little girl.
Strange not once do you find any blame for the sexual preditor that was following her.

[sooperphreek]

the predator never would have found her if she wasnt online......maybe she would have been outside with real tangible friends and she would still be happy.

[keith1612]

the predator never would have found her if she wasnt online......maybe she would have been outside with real tangible friends and she would still be happy.

very true and possible.
i suppose children would never get kidnapped and murdered if they were locked in a bare room.
so your answer is remove the internet and destroy cell phones and well keep children blocked from reality?
i think going after child molesters makes more sense.
yes i agree technology has gone crazy and kids are connected to the net/phones too much.
hell i see 7 year olds all over town with $800 iphones, thats crazy.
but to blame technology before the real perverts wont help.
perverts were around before the net, the net just makes it much easier for them.

[sooperphreek]

the tech is not the problem. its the fact that it is easy to circumvent the age on facebook. and that parents sign a contract for a phone a kid cant do on their own for texting. so the blame can only be on the parents. your saying otherwise is just plain spin. at the end of the day if i say things that offend you - thats fine i stand by what i say.

[Roadster]

the predator never would have found her if she wasnt online......maybe she would have been outside with real tangible friends and she would still be happy.

very true and possible.
i suppose children would never get kidnapped and murdered if they were locked in a bare room.
so your answer is remove the internet and destroy cell phones and well keep children blocked from reality?
i think going after child molesters makes more sense.
yes i agree technology has gone crazy and kids are connected to the net/phones too much.
hell i see 7 year olds all over town with $800 iphones, thats crazy.
but to blame technology before the real perverts wont help.
perverts were around before the net, the net just makes it much easier for them.

I am gonna slide towards what sooperfreak said,,, the web is a place for fun learning and so on, its also open to all including perverts and criminals looking for easy cash from all corners of the world, or to find kids to kidnap, so if a person contacts your kid and manages to get the contents of your wallet read to him, still gonna blame the net?
Freaks are out there and as long as parents buy their kids web toys and dont monitor their use there is gonna be more and more trouble. Kids will die or get hurt, adults will find their kids getting conned into buying something that never arrives but the bill is on a credit card,,, when will they learn? Just because your kid seems to have their heads in the right place doesnt mean someone smarter then them isnt looking for them on the web. These freaks are smarter then your kid, they know what to say to make even the smartest kid bare a boob. They will keep trying till they get someone and one day it could be your kid even if they avoided a few attempts before.
There are always promises that can be made to encourage a kid to do something they wouldnt without those promises... The wonderful boyfriend (30 year old perv) just when a troubled teen needs someone because her heart has been broken,,, and so on. Kids have made huge money transactions their parents werent aware of... Kids end up on porn sites,,, kidnapped,,, these operations are happening all over the world and parents need to be proactive,,, how can we blame an object we bought for them? You let them cut their own apples,,, gonna blame the knife if your kid lops off a finger? No you are gonna monitor them and make sure they are doing it right,, why bother if you'd let some freak contact them and work something quit scary out with them? Again they might be posting your address on the web, check their face book and bets are nothing is blocked. The bullying in this case mighta stopped if she hadnt been found after the move.

[keith1612]

I am gonna slide towards what sooperfreak said,,, the web is a place for fun learning and so on, its also open to all including perverts and criminals looking for easy cash from all corners of the world, or to find kids to kidnap, so if a person contacts your kid and manages to get the contents of your wallet read to him, still gonna blame the net?
Freaks are out there and as long as parents buy their kids web toys and dont monitor their use there is gonna be more and more trouble. Kids will die or get hurt, adults will find their kids getting conned into buying something that never arrives but the bill is on a credit card,,, when will they learn? Just because your kid seems to have their heads in the right place doesnt mean someone smarter then them isnt looking for them on the web. These freaks are smarter then your kid, they know what to say to make even the smartest kid bare a boob. They will keep trying till they get someone and one day it could be your kid even if they avoided a few attempts before.
There are always promises that can be made to encourage a kid to do something they wouldnt without those promises... The wonderful boyfriend (30 year old perv) just when a troubled teen needs someone because her heart has been broken,,, and so on. Kids have made huge money transactions their parents werent aware of... Kids end up on porn sites,,, kidnapped,,, these operations are happening all over the world and parents need to be proactive,,, how can we blame an object we bought for them? You let them cut their own apples,,, gonna blame the knife if your kid lops off a finger? No you are gonna monitor them and make sure they are doing it right,, why bother if you'd let some freak contact them and work something quit scary out with them? Again they might be posting your address on the web, check their face book and bets are nothing is blocked. The bullying in this case mighta stopped if she hadnt been found after the move.

sorry i dont agree with letting society lose because its easier than catching criminals.
no kids should be able to use the internet without scumbags attempting to molest them.
so you are going to ban your kids from walking to the mall because you dont want to bother catching rapists on the street?
thats a shame.

[Roadster]

sorry i dont agree with letting society lose because its easier than catching criminals.
no kids should be able to use the internet without scumbags attempting to molest them.
so you are going to ban your kids from walking to the mall because you dont want to bother catching rapists on the street?
thats a shame.

What I read here is let the kids play on the web without curbing them any,,, let them be targets so we can catch all of the freaks on the web,,, thats all good if you dont mind your kid being the target.
Not let them walk to the mall? No comparison to the web where the whole wide world of child porn and abuse is learning where you live because you care not to monitor your kid... Your problem.
Yes a kid should be able to walk to the mall, with a group of kids, coming back at a time expected or calling the parents, and a good understanding of how not to let strangers get close to them, will they relate that to the web when they feel safe in their bedroom? Likely not because after all its just the web, "Everybody uses the web, no one can hurt me here while my parents are watching over me" "People cant find my house because they dont live here" "I just need a good secret friend to talk to cos my parents were jerks and grounded me to my room, no big deal, its computer, not like anyone could grab me, besides I am on with other teens only, just my friends"
You spend time arguing with me while some kid is being scoped right now, or bullied, or is already part of a porn site,,, where do you think these kids are coming from? Its only my opinion that a kid would be safer at the mall with a bunch of real friends the parents know.
Its up to the parents, not you and me. They can read you and go with it or they can think safety and monitor their kids use and protect them. Till they do kids will dissappear because we will Never catch all of the kid pervs, never. even school teachers and coaches are being busted for kid porn, but kids go to school, they have to be taught how to spot a perv, but IMO it would be ten times harder on the web because that "young guy" your daughter met on the web has no face, even if he provided a picture,,, its easy to send a fake pic over the web and make a young girl fall in love with it. Now you just say things she wants to hear.

[Donald G]

My appreciation to the various police forces across Canada who worked with members of the public in identifying and charging another sick batch of 150 internet child porn addicts. I think some of the people on this thread may have had the pleasure of playing a part in helping the police. Exemplary Canadian Good Citizen Awards to all of you for making Canada just a little bit better place to live in this morning. Thank you.

See CASTANET news article for a few details. Three from the Okanagan. Hopefully their names will be published after they are charged so that we know the identity of the warped minded low lifes.

[Glacier]

Dutch man won't face charges in Netherlands related to Amanda Todd extortion



A man in the Netherlands will not face charges there in connection with the case of Amanda Todd, the B.C. teen who killed herself after she was stalked online.

Wim de Bruin, a press officer at the National Prosecutors Office in the Netherlands, told CBC News that Aydin Coban was never officially charged specifically in the case of Todd's death. Coban was only under suspicion of distribution of child porn in Todd's case, de Bruin said.

Todd, a 15-year-old from Port Coquitlam, committed suicide in October 2012 after posting a video on YouTube, in which she said she'd been blackmailed by an online predator after exposing her breasts on a webcam.

Dutch police arrested Coban in January 2014 in relation to an investigation involving Dutch victims who were harassed online. He was charged with nine offences, including indecent assault and production and dissemination of child pornography.

Three months later, RCMP announced Coban was also facing five charges in B.C., including extortion, internet luring, criminal harassment and the possession and distribution of child pornography in the Todd case.

Coban's trial in the Netherlands is in the pre-motion hearings stage and it was decided he would not be charged in relation to any non-Dutch victims, de Bruin said.

De Bruin said Coban could still be extradited to Canada, but he said it is up to Canadian authorities to move on that issue.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/du ... li=AAacUQk

[Glacier]

Dutch court refuses delay for Amanda Todd accused



VANCOUVER – A Dutch court has refused to grant a third delay in the trial of a man accused of making child pornography and online extortion linked to the suicide of a British Columbia teenager Amanda Todd.

A spokeswoman for the Amsterdam court says the criminal proceedings against Aydin Coban will continue on Monday despite that his lawyer officially quit the case Friday morning, the opening day of the trial.

Polly van Dijk says the court must consider not only the suspect’s interests but also those of his more than 30 alleged victims by ensuring the trial moves forward in a timely manner.

Coban faces 72 charges, most of which relate to the production and distribution of child pornography and blackmail, and involve 39 victims from around the world.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2670764/dutch ... 25363972=1

[Glacier]

The trial of a Dutch man facing child pornography and extortion charges against 39 people, including one Canadian, has once again been delayed.

Aydin Coban's previous lawyer, Christian van Dijk, still follows the proceedings closely and says his former client's case likely won't go to trial now until after summer.

Coban also faces extradition to Canada on five charges connected to British Columbia teenager Amanda Todd, who killed herself in October 2012 after being bullied by an online harasser.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#164731

Bullying!? Since when has sexual exploitation been bullying? She killed herself because some sicko pedophile creep was preying on her for sexual gain, and she felt trapped. Stop trying to minimize sex crimes, Castanet.