SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post Reply
User avatar
oneh2obabe
feistres Goruchaf y Bwrdd
Posts: 95131
Joined: Nov 23rd, 2007, 8:19 am

SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by oneh2obabe »

Although the decision came about because of a Quebec lower court ruling, it does have implications for the rest of Canada if any provincial government is looking to crack down on drunk driving by making vehicle seizures routine.

* * * * *

The Supreme Court of Canada has overturned a Quebec lower court ruling and allowed the Crown to seize a vehicle belonging to a repeat drunk driver.

In a 7-0 decision today, the justices ruled that the judge in the Quebec case was wrong to deny the forfeiture order.

The case involved Alphide Manning, who was arrested near Baie-Comeau in April 2010. He subsequently pleaded guilty to two counts of impaired driving and was sentenced to 12 months on one charge and five months on the other.

The Crown also moved to seize the truck Manning was driving when he was arrested.

Manning argued that the loss of the $1,000 vehicle, his sole asset, would be overly harsh.

The trial judge denied the seizure motion, saying it would be a disproportionate penalty.

The Quebec Court of Appeal denied a Crown appeal of the decision.

The Supreme Court, however, said the trial judge was wrong.

"We are not satisfied that the impact of the order of forfeiture sought by the Crown was disproportionate," the decision said.

The justices said Manning's record had to be considered.

"The trial judge erroneously emphasized Mr. Manning's personal circumstances and failed to give appropriate weight ... to Mr. Manning's criminal record, including five convictions on alcohol-related driving offences and three for breaches of probation orders or undertakings."

The ruling comes as the Quebec government is looking to crack down on drunk driving by making vehicle seizures routine.

Quebec Justice Minister Bertrand St-Arnaud said Wednesday that he wants to see offenders' vehicles seized after each infraction and confiscated for good upon a third offence.

The latter measure can already be applied but is not done often enough for St-Arnaud.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ ... izure.html
Dance as if no one's watching, sing as if no one's listening, and live everyday as if it were your last.

Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
Veovis
Guru
Posts: 7711
Joined: Apr 19th, 2007, 3:11 pm

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by Veovis »

IN a case like this I don't see an error in taking the vehicle. He's had 5 DUI convictions, never mind actual times caught, as well as getting caught 3 times while suspended.

If he keeps the truck, he will drive the truck, licence or not, and he will be drunk some of those times based on history.
juz516
Board Meister
Posts: 632
Joined: Jul 26th, 2008, 11:19 pm

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by juz516 »

I know of two young women that had their vehicles taken and licences suspended....with no priors and one for 3 months.(one was speeding and the other, apparently, blew over at a check point. The one girl appealed, denied, and was informed that if she chose to appeal again, it would be a 10,000 fine and criminal record. How does that work?
User avatar
Bsuds
The Wagon Master
Posts: 55057
Joined: Apr 21st, 2005, 10:46 am

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by Bsuds »

It's about time the penalties for driving impaired got much harsher than what they have been in the past.
No sympathy for anyone caught doing so.
My Wife asked me if I knew what her favorite flower was?
Apparently "Robin Hood All Purpose" was the wrong answer!
User avatar
kibbs
Grand Pooh-bah
Posts: 2945
Joined: Oct 30th, 2012, 9:04 am

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by kibbs »

Quebec has a brutal drinking culture.It took me a week to get use to beer with breakfast,It does not surprise me the lower court was lenient.Its an awesome place to party,
Peace be with you.
Donald G
Buddha of the Board
Posts: 20156
Joined: Jan 29th, 2008, 8:42 pm

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by Donald G »

Yes ... Yes ... Yes ... Yes ... Yes. Drinking and driving is a CRIMINAL offense and should be treated as such.
User avatar
GrooveTunes
Grand Pooh-bah
Posts: 2041
Joined: Feb 19th, 2006, 7:37 pm

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by GrooveTunes »

Yup. The law should be able to confiscate your cell phone as well if you get caught.
All posts are my opinion unless otherwise noted.
User avatar
Bsuds
The Wagon Master
Posts: 55057
Joined: Apr 21st, 2005, 10:46 am

Re: SCoC rules Crown right to seize drunk driver's truck

Post by Bsuds »

GrooveTunes wrote:Yup. The law should be able to confiscate your cell phone as well if you get caught.


:rate10:
My Wife asked me if I knew what her favorite flower was?
Apparently "Robin Hood All Purpose" was the wrong answer!
Post Reply

Return to “Canada”