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Whose Islam?

Whose Islam?

Postby logicalview » Oct 21st, 2013, 3:50 pm

Whose Islam?
National Review's Happy Warrior
October 21, 2013


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The "war" part of the war on terror is pretty much over, and we're now fighting it culturally, rhetorically. Which is not something we do well. Take the British prime minister and his traditional nothing-to-do-with-Islam statement, issued in the wake of the Kenyan shopping-mall carnage:

These appalling terrorist attacks that take place where the perpetrators claim they do it in the name of a religion: They don't. They do it in the name of terror, violence and extremism and their warped view of the world. They don't represent Islam, or Muslims in Britain or anywhere else in the world.

Same with the Muslims who beheaded a British soldier, Drummer Rigby, on a London street in broad daylight. On that occasion, David Cameron assured us that the unfortunate incident was "a betrayal of Islam. . . . There is nothing in Islam that justifies this truly dreadful act."

How does he know? Mr. Cameron is not (yet) a practicing Muslim. A self-described "vaguely practicing" Anglican, he becomes rather less vague and unusually forceful and emphatic when the subject turns to Islam. At the Westgate mall in Nairobi, the terrorists separated non-Muslim hostages from Muslims and permitted the latter to leave if they could recite a Muslim prayer—a test I doubt Mr. Cameron could have passed, for all his claims to authority on what is and isn't Islamic. So the perpetrators seem to think it's something to do with Islam—and, indeed, something to do with Muslims in the United Kingdom, given that the terrorists included British subjects (as well as U.S. citizens).

It was a busy weekend for Nothing to Do with Islam. Among the other events that were nothing to do with Islam were the murder of over 85 Pakistani Christians at All Saints' Church in Peshawar and the beheading of Ricardo Dionio in the Philippines by BIFF, the aggressively acronymic breakaway faction (the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters) from the more amusingly acronymic *bleep* (the Moro Islamic Liberation Front). Despite a body count higher than Kenya, the Pakistani slaughter received barely a mention in the Western media. You'd be hard put to find an Anglican church in England with a big enough congregation on a Sunday morning to kill 85 worshipers therein, but in Peshawar, a 99 percent Muslim city, the few remaining Christians are not of the "vaguely practicing" Cameron variety. Viewed from London, however, they've already lost: One day there will be no Christians in Peshawar and the city will be 100 percent Muslim. It may be "nothing to do with Islam," but it's just the way it is: We accept the confessional cleansing of Pakistan, as we do of Egypt, because it's part of "the Muslim world." Nairobi, on the other hand, is not, and a murderous assault on an upscale shopping mall patronized by Kenya's elite and wealthy secular expats gets far closer to the comfort zone wherein David Cameron "vaguely practices": In a "clash of civilizations" in which one side doesn't want to play, a shattered church has less symbolic resonance than a shattered frozen-yogurt eatery.

On this side of the Atlantic, meanwhile, the Canadian branch of the Islamic Society of North America lost its charitable status after it was revealed to be funding all that jihad stuff that's nothing to do with Islam. This presented a small problem for Justin Trudeau, leader of the Liberal party, son of Pierre, and on course to be the Queen's dimmest prime minister of her six-decade reign: Where David Cameron is a silky, slippery deceiver who surely knows better, young Justin seems genuinely to believe the mush he serves up. Asked to explain his recent photo-op at the now-discredited ISNA, he replied: "Part of my job is to speak with as many Canadians as possible and talk to people about the kinds of shared values we have."

I don't suppose M. Trudeau really means he "shares values" with terrorism supporters, but he does get to the heart of the problem: To put it at its mildest, there seem to be insufficient "shared values" between Western societies and a not-insignificant number of young Muslim men who are nominally and legally citizens thereof. One survivor of the Westgate mall said, "I don't understand why you would shoot a five-year-old child." But what's to understand? The child was shot because he was not Muslim. Five-year-olds died at All Saints' Church for the same reason—because, even in a town that's 99 percent Muslim, a non-Muslim kindergartner is a provocation. Crazy, huh? Yet it is not inconceivable that the man who executed the five-year-old at the Westgate mall was one of those "British subjects" or "U.S. citizens." That's to say, he's not some primitive from the fringes of the map but someone who has grown up in the same society as Justin Trudeau and decided that Justin's "shared values" are worthless.

To be charitable to Mr. Cameron, he is trying to point out that very few Muslims want to stare a five-year-old in the eye and pull the trigger. But, likewise, very few of them want to do anything serious—in their mosques and madrassahs—about the culture that incubates such men. The prime minister is betting that all the clever chaps like him can keep the lid on and hold things to what, at the height of the Northern Irish "Troubles," cynical British officials privately called "an acceptable level of violence." A combined weekend corpse count of 150 is, apparently, "acceptable"—or at any rate not sufficiently unacceptable to prompt any reconsideration of a British, Canadian, and European immigration policy that makes Islam the principal source of Western population growth.

But don't worry: As John McCain says of our Syrian "allies," "Allahu akbar" simply means "Thank God." Thank God for that.


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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby maryjane48 » Oct 22nd, 2013, 5:40 am

and how many have died in the name of Christianity ? to be balanced
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby the truth » Oct 22nd, 2013, 1:58 pm

they are all full of it
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby logicalview » Oct 22nd, 2013, 2:30 pm

lakevixen wrote:and how many have died in the name of Christianity ? to be balanced


What time period are you asking about? Let's just pick September 2013. That score would be: Muslims - 2,005 killed, 3,079 critically injured. Same time frame for Christians: zero killed, zero injured, not counting hang-nails or cold sores.

Here's some fun stats for you:

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined


Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.


More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.


More innocents were killed by extremists in two hours on September 11th than the total number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years.


Here's a list of attacks by Muslim terrorists worldwide, just in the past 30 days:

List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days

Date Place Killed Injured
2013.10.21 Nigeria Borno 10 0 Pro-Sharia militants burn down houses and shoot dead ten villagers.
2013.10.21 Russia Volgograd 6 37 A Muslim woman detonates an explosives-laden suicide vest on a bus, killing six strangers.
2013.10.20 Syria Hama 43 36 Over forty motorists are obliterated by a Shahid suicide truck bomber at an agricultural exchange.
2013.10.20 Iraq Baghdad 54 70 Over fifty innocents lose their lives when one suicide bomber detonates at a packed cafe and another catches others rushing to help.
2013.10.20 Egypt Warraq 4 18 Muslim radicals open fire at church, murdering the pastor, one woman and two young girls.
2013.10.20 Iraq Samarrah 6 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out a family of six.
2013.10.19 Somalia Beledweyne 16 40 Sixteen people at a restaurant are torn to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.10.18 Syria Deir Ezzor 10 0 Ten captured soldiers are executed by al-Nusra.
2013.10.18 Dagestan Khasavyurt 1 0 A policeman is shot to death by an Islamic extremist.
2013.10.18 Iraq Sinjar 4 0 A mother and her three sons are shot to death by Sunni fundamentalists over their status as religious minorities.
2013.10.18 Afghanistan Kabul 6 0 Four children are among a family of six exterminated by pro-Sharia bombers.
2013.10.18 Iraq Mashtal 3 12 Three Iraqis are taken down by Islamic terrorists.
2013.10.18 Iraq Baghdad 12 23 Children are heavily represented among the dozen Iraqis blown up outside an ice cream shop.
2013.10.17 Iraq al-Muwaffaqiyah 15 60 Fifteen members of a religious minority community are dismantled by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.10.17 Iraq Mosul 1 3 A child is murdered in a targeted Sunni terror attack on a minority religious family.
2013.10.17 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 4 27 Four people are torn to shreds by a Fedyeen suicide bomb blast.
2013.10.17 Iraq Baghdad 11 22 Eleven innocents are sent to Allah by Sunni bombers in a Shia suburb.
2013.10.17 Iraq Baghdad 8 15 Islamists set off a bomb in a Christian neighborhood, killing at least eight residents.
2013.10.17 Iraq Baghdad 11 54 A Shahid suicide blast is one of several bombings that leave eight dead and dozens more in agony.
2013.10.17 Tunisia Beja 2 1 Two police officers are killed by religious radicals.
2013.10.17 Iraq Baghdad 7 14 Seven patrons at a restaurant are taken out in mid-bite by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2013.10.16 Pakistan Kulachi 9 30 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out nine people at a small village.
2013.10.16 Syria Daraa 21 12 Four children and six women are among twenty-one people exterminated by a Sunni car bomb blast on Eid.
2013.10.16 Iraq Abu Ghraib 5 16 A 4-year-old is among five children who bleed to death after terrorists set off a blast in front of a playground.
2013.10.16 Iraq Abu Saida 2 3 Jihadi bombers pick off two members of the same family.
2013.10.16 Pakistan Swat 3 10 Three people are killed in two attacks by Islamist militants.
2013.10.15 Iraq Mosul 2 0 'Insurgents' murder two brothers on their way to a rival mosque.
2013.10.15 Yemen Hadramawt 1 0 A local cop is gunned down by al-Qaeda.
2013.10.15 Yemen Lahj 2 4 Two guards at a checkpoint are cut down by an al-Qaeda drive-by.
2013.10.15 Afghanistan Logar 2 18 Fundamentalists kill an official at a mosque with a bomb hidden in the microphone.
2013.10.15 Iraq Kirkuk 12 24 Radical bombers murder a dozen worshippers at a rival mosque.
2013.10.14 Iraq Yathrib 3 6 Three Iraqis bleed out following an attack by Jihadi bombers.
2013.10.14 Ethiopia Addis Ababa 0 0 Two suicide bombers kill only themselves outside a stadium hosting a World Cup qualifier.
2013.10.13 Syria Darkush 39 27 Islamists detonate a car bomb near a market, killing nearly forty.
2013.10.13 Afghanistan Nuristan 7 9 Fundamentalists fire a rocket into a bazaar, killing seven civilians.
2013.10.13 Afghanistan Kunar 2 0 Two children, ages 8 and 10, are executed by the Taliban on charges of "spying".
2013.10.13 Iraq Hillah 8 27 Eight shoppers at a market bleed out following a Mujahideen bomb blast.
2013.10.13 Iraq Kut 4 31 Muslim terrorists set off a shrapnel bomb in a bus station, killing at least four commuters.
2013.10.13 Pakistan Karachi 1 1 A child is among two members of a religious minority shot by sectarian Jihadis.
2013.10.13 Iraq Baghdad 14 17 Three al-Qaeda bomb blasts, one at a soccer field, leave fourteen dead.
2013.10.13 Iraq Samarrah 9 22 A car bomb at a funeral takes out five mourners.
2013.10.13 Iraq Diwaniya 9 56 Bombs at an ice cream shop and a bakery leave nine dead.
2013.10.13 Iraq Samarrah 4 10 Four Iraqis are blown to bits a Shiite shrine by Sunni suicide bombers.
2013.10.12 Pakistan Wana 2 2 A suicide car bomber takes out two Pakistanis.
2013.10.12 Afghanistan Jalalabad 4 8 Four people are incinerated by a suicide bomber.
2013.10.12 Iraq Samarrah 24 32 Women and several young children are among two dozen shoppers disassembled by Islamic bombers along a crowded sidewalk.
2013.10.12 Iraq Tuz Khormato 4 7 A brutal IED attack on a market leaves four shoppers dead.
2013.10.11 Pakistan Machi Goth 1 0 A 15-year-old girl is shot to death by her conservative family over a suspected sexual affair.
2013.10.11 Yemen Lahj 1 4 A suicide bomber at a market and a separate shooting leave at least one dead victim.
2013.10.11 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A car mechanic is taken out by Muslim gunmen.
2013.10.10 Pakistan Lahore 1 13 Jihadis bomb a bustling food market, killing at least one.
2013.10.10 Egypt al-Reesa 4 3 Four people are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.10.10 Yemen Mukalla 1 0 al-Qaeda gunmen assassinate a local official.
2013.10.10 Syria al-Qusayr 6 0 Video surfaces of Hezbollah militants executing seriously wounded prisoners while praising Allah.
2013.10.10 Israel Mshadmot Mehola 1 1 An Israeli couple is attacked in a residential area. The husband is bludgeoned to death.
2013.10.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 Muslim terrorists take out three people with a bomb in a commercial district.
2013.10.10 Syria Jaramana 11 23 Eleven people are killed when Sunni terrorists fire mortars into a Christian neighborhood.
2013.10.09 Iraq Baiji 4 6 al-Qaeda gunmen roll up on a checkpoint and machine-gun four local cops.
2013.10.09 Thailand Yala 7 22 Thirty-one bombs planted next to ATMs leave seven people dead.
2013.10.09 Syria Aleppo 10 6 At least ten Syrians are blown up by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.10.09 Thailand Pattani 1 1 A 55-year-old female teacher is killed during an ambush by Muslim militants.
2013.10.09 Afghanistan Helmand 3 4 Three Afghans are sent to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.10.09 Iraq Kut 8 7 Eight poultry workers on a truck are torn to shreds by Mujahid bombers.
2013.10.08 Iraq Zafaraniyah 9 16 Nine people are killed in a series of attacks including a car bomb at a restaurant in a Shiite neighborhood.
2013.10.08 Centrafrique Gaga 40 50 Forty civilians are reported killed by Seleka rebels.
2013.10.07 Iraq Baghdad 8 22 al-Qaeda bombers murder eight Iraqis with two bombs in a commercial district.
2013.10.07 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 al-Qaeda bombers set off a blast in a neighborhood that wipes out four residents.
2013.10.07 Egypt al-Tour 5 48 Salafis set off a car bomb near an apartment complex that leaves at least five dead.
2013.10.07 Iraq Husseiniya 7 21 Seven people at a market are taken out by Mujahid car bombers.
2013.10.07 Egypt Ismailiya 5 0 Five local cops are machine-gunned by drive-by Islamists.
2013.10.07 Pakistan Peshawar 6 12 Religious radicals target a polio team with a bomb, killing six.
2013.10.07 Iraq Zafaraniyah 6 21 Two car bombs in a Shiite neighborhood leave six dead.
2013.10.07 Iraq Obeidi 5 8 Five people lose their lives to al-Qaeda bombers.
2013.10.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 10 Three patrons at a coffee shop are dismantled by Sunni bombers.
2013.10.07 Iraq Sadiyah 3 10 al-Qaeda hit a shopping district with a bomb that takes the lives of three innocents.
2013.10.07 Iraq Baghdad 5 10 A half-dozen Iraqis are murdered by al-Qaeda bombers.
2013.10.07 Yemen Sanaa 1 0 A German man is gunned down by al-Qaeda at a grocery store.
2013.10.07 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 54-year-old Shia doctor and father of four is brutally cut down in his clinic by Sunni gunmen.
2013.10.07 Pakistan Mardan 4 0 Two children are among a family of four brutally 'honor killed' in their own home.
2013.10.07 Iraq Dora 4 8 Four shoppers are taken out by Muslim terrorists.
2013.10.07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two civilians on a motorcycle are shot in the head by Muslim 'separatists'.
2013.10.06 Nigeria Gwoza 2 0 Islamists shout praises to Allah as they shoot a nurse to death and slit a guard's throat.
2013.10.06 Iraq Tal Afar 15 90 Fourteen children (ages 6 - 12) are disassembled along with their principal by a Shahid suicide bomber at a playground.
2013.10.06 Iraq Baghdad 14 30 A Fedayeen suicide bomber exterminates over a dozen Shiite pilgrims on foot.
2013.10.06 Pakistan Bannu 3 8 Three people are blown up by Islamic extremists.
2013.10.05 Iraq Yusufiya 3 5 al-Qaeda bombers take down three Iraqis.
2013.10.05 Iraq Balad 16 32 Over a dozen innocents at a cafe in a Shiite town are incinerated by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2013.10.05 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 A Mujahideen bomb at a cafe leaves three dead.
2013.10.05 Iraq Baghdad 51 109 Scores of Shiite pilgrims are reduced to a bloody pulp by a Fedayeen suicide bomber along a bridge.
2013.10.05 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two local journalists are murdered by Mujahid gunmen.
2013.10.05 Centrafrique Bangassou 9 0 Nine Christians protesting violence by Muslim 'rebels' are killed when their demonstration is attacked.
2013.10.05 Nigeria Damboa 5 0 Five people are slain by Boko Haram rivals as they are leaving a mosque.
2013.10.05 Pakistan Charbagh 2 0 Two members of a peace committee are gunned down in cold blood by Religion of Peace radicals.
2013.10.05 Israel Pesagot 0 1 A Palestinian sniper hits a 9-year-old Jewish girl in the neck outside her house.
2013.10.05 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two Shiite electrical employees are gunned down by Sunnis on their way home from work.
2013.10.04 Lebanon Tripoli 27 358 Sectarian bombers target a rival mosque, killing over two dozen worshippers.
2013.10.04 Egypt Ismailiya 2 1 Islamists shoot two local cops to death.
2013.10.04 Iraq Anbar 3 5 Three Iraqis are taken down by a Shahid sucide bomber.
2013.10.04 Iraq Salaheddin 3 7 A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills three other people.
2013.10.04 Afghanistan Beaver Ridge WV Canaan 2 9 Taliban bombers kill two locals.
2013.10.04 Pakistan Karachi 1 1 A targeted sectarian attack leaves a Shia cloth trader dead and his son wounded.
2013.10.03 Pakistan Spin Tall 17 22 A Tehrik-i-Taliban suicide bomber murders seventeen people, including a woman and child.
2013.10.03 Iraq Fallujah 2 3 Two civilians are killed in their own home by Sunni bombers.
2013.10.03 Afghanistan Nawa 4 2 Four local soldiers are sent to Allah by Taliban bombers.
2013.10.03 Iraq Madain 5 13 Five teens at a soccer field are exterminated by Mujahideen bombers.
2013.10.02 Iraq Baghdad 4 17 Bombs near an ice cream shop leave four dead.
2013.10.02 Yemen Hadramout 5 0 Five local cops are murdered by suspected al-Qaeda.
2013.10.02 Thailand Yala 4 3 Children are among the casualties of a Muslim 'separatist' bomb blast.
2013.10.02 Thailand Yala 2 5 Muslim terrorists attack a group of soldiers guarding teachers and kill two.
2013.10.02 Pakistan Parachinar 1 2 A Shiite father is shot to death in his own home by Sunni gunmen.
2013.10.02 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 Sunnis bomb a Shia vegetable market, killing two vendors.
2013.10.02 Afghanistan Chaman 8 16 A Holy Warrior detonates a suicide vest at a border crossing, sending eight innocents to the hereafter.
2013.10.01 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 0 Two off-duty cops are gunned down by suspected Islamists.
2013.10.01 Pakistan Rawalpindi 4 0 A Shiite doctor, his wife and two young children are brutally executed in their own home by sectarian killers.
2013.10.01 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba gunmen take down a local Shiite.
2013.10.01 Iraq Tikrit 5 0 Five Iraqis are taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.09.30 Iraq Shaab 5 30 al-Qaeda bombers murder five Iraqis with three blasts.
2013.09.30 Afghanistan Takhar 2 0 Two people are killed when the Taliban spray a car with bullets.
2013.09.30 Egypt Ismailia 4 0 Two people eating breakfast are among four locals machine-gunned by Islamic hardliners.
2013.09.30 Yemen Mukalla 2 0 A suicide attack leaves at least two dead.
2013.09.30 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Sunni gunmen murder an official at a Shia mosque.
2013.09.30 Pakistan Gilgit 1 0 A Shia cab driver is kidnapped and tortured to death by Sipah-e-Sahaba.
2013.09.30 Iraq Kadhimiya 9 25 Two Religion of Peace car bombs go off at a twon square, leaving at least nine dead.
2013.09.30 Iraq Mosul 3 3 Three people are ripped apart by a Sunni bomb blast at a Shia market.
2013.09.30 Iraq Baghdad 24 78 Two dozen Iraqis are brought down by al-Qaeda bombers in a series of attacks around the city.
2013.09.30 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two Shiites are gunned down by Sunni terrorists.
2013.09.30 Iraq Sadr City 7 16 Jihadis set off a bomb at a packed Shiite vegetable market, killing at least seven patrons.
2013.09.29 Pakistan Peshawar 42 107 Forty innocents at a packed market are torn to shreds by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2013.09.29 Iraq Hussainya 5 14 'Insurgent' bombers snuff out five lives at a vegetable market.
2013.09.29 Iraq Irbil 6 40 An al-Qaeda suicide bombing leaves six others dead.
2013.09.29 Afghanistan Herat 5 0 Three farmers are among five people gunned down by the Taliban.
2013.09.29 Yemen Taez 1 0 A local is shot to death in his car by al-Qaeda.
2013.09.29 Iraq Tarmiyah 1 0 A teacher at a secular school is assassinated by suspected Islamists.
2013.09.29 Iraq Mussayab 40 50 Forty people at a Shiite funeral join their beloved courtesy of a Sunni suicide bomber.
2013.09.29 Nigeria Gujba 64 16 Sixty-four college students are slaughtered in the middle of the night by Boko Haram gunmen at their dorm.
2013.09.29 Iraq Shurqat 4 6 Four residents are killed when terrorists blow up a house.
2013.09.28 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 8 Women and children are among the casualties of a bombing by religious hardliners.
2013.09.28 Afghanistan Uruzgan 2 0 Two civilians are left dead after a fundamentalist bomb attack.
2013.09.28 Nigeria Zangang 15 12 Muslim militia attack a Christian village, hacking to death fifteen residents and burning down their homes.
2013.09.28 Iraq Tarmiyah 4 15 al-Qaeda militants blow up four houses, killing people sleeping inside.
2013.09.28 Mali Timbuktu 2 6 Two civilians on a horse-cart are sent to Allah by Shahid suicide bombers.
2013.09.27 Iraq Mosul 2 11 A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills two Iraqis.
2013.09.27 Pakistan Peshawar 19 46 Hardliners fighting for an Islamic state blow up nineteen passengers on a bus.
2013.09.27 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A civilian is killed during an ambush by Muslim 'separatists'.
2013.09.27 Iraq Baghdad 9 33 Jihadis bomb two rival mosques, killing at least nine worshippers.
2013.09.27 Syria Rankus 37 100 Thirty-seven people are reportedly killed by a terrorist car bomb at a mosque.
2013.09.27 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 Islamists shoot a cop to death outside a hotel.
2013.09.27 Nigeria Saminaka 3 0 Three guards are killed when Boko Haram cadres attack a bank.
2013.09.26 Iraq Baghdad 20 71 A Shahid suicide bomber murders twenty other people at a packed Shia marketplace.
2013.09.26 Nigeria Gamboru 27 0 Twenty-seven villagers are massacred by terrorists fighting for an Islamic state.
2013.09.26 Thailand Yala 1 0 A rescue worker is slain by suspected Muslim 'separatists'.
2013.09.26 India Kashmir 10 4 Muslim terrorists go on a 6-hour rampage, eventually killing ten other people.
2013.09.26 Kenya Mandera 2 3 al-Shabaab militants ambush and kill two innocents.
2013.09.26 Iraq Tikrit 4 0 An al-Qaeda bomb blast leaves four dead.
2013.09.26 Iraq Baghdad 8 14 Eight people including women and children are pulled into pieces by Jihadi bombers at a Sunni commercial center.
2013.09.26 Pakistan Rahim Yar Khan 2 0 A young couple is shot to death for getting married without the father's permission.
2013.09.26 Yemen Huta 1 0 A homosexual is executed by Islamic fundamentalists.
2013.09.26 Iraq Baghdad 19 50 Holy Warriors bomb two marketplaces in Shia areas, killing nineteen.
2013.09.26 Nigeria Dorawa 3 0 A Pastor and his son are among three people machine-gunned by Religion of Peace enthusiasts.
2013.09.25 Iraq Hawijah 10 22 Ten Iraqis are taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.09.25 Iraq Balad 5 3 Jihadis kill five locals with a car bomb.
2013.09.25 Yemen Ataq 1 0 A Religion of Peace suicide bomber manages to kill one other person.
2013.09.25 Iraq Baghdad 6 0 Three small children and their parents are among six family members brutally murdered in their home by Islamic terrorists.
2013.09.25 Kenya Wajir 1 3 al-Shabaab claims credit for a grenade attack near a Catholic church.
2013.09.25 Libya Derna 2 0 Two Christians are invited to embrace Islam, then tied up and shot when they refuse.
2013.09.25 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 A judge and his son are shot to death in their car by suspected Islamists.
2013.09.25 Pakistan Mohmand 3 7 Muslim militants attack a dam, killing three construction workers.
2013.09.24 Syria Damascus 7 15 Seven people are killed when Sunni terrorists set off a car bomb in a residential neighborhood.
2013.09.24 Iraq Haditha 9 0 al-Qaeda launch a suicide attack on local police, killing at least nine.
2013.09.23 Egypt Ismailiya 1 0 Islamists gun down a cop.
2013.09.23 India Srinagar 1 1 Islamic militants murder a man shopping at a market.
2013.09.23 Iraq Adhamiyah 16 34 Sixteen mourners are killed when yet another funeral is targeted by sectarian bombers.
2013.09.23 Dagestan Tabasaransky 2 16 Two others are killed by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber at a police station.
2013.09.23 Philippines North Cotabato 8 15 Eight people lose their lives when Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters storm a town a take hostages.
2013.09.23 Iraq Mosul 2 2 Jihadis bomb an ambulance carrying a pregnant woman.
2013.09.23 Afghanistan Chardara 1 0 A man is shot to death on his way to work by Islamic fundamentalists.
2013.09.23 Iraq Sadr City 2 10 Terrorists bomb a cafe in a Shiite area, killing two patrons.
2013.09.23 Iraq Ramadi 3 4 Three Iraqis are taken down by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.09.23 Iraq Yusufiya 3 2 A Shiite married couple and their child are murdered in their home by Sunni gunmen.
2013.09.23 Pakistan Pishin 5 5 Two civilians and three police are blown to bits by Tehreek-e-Taliban bombers.
2013.09.23 Pakistan Gilgit 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba gunmen pick off a Shiite outside his house.
2013.09.22 Iraq Baghdad 6 0 Six Iraqis are shot to death by Mujahideen, including four young people at a refreshment shop.
2013.09.22 Iraq Kirkuk 0 51 A car bomb targeting educators leaves over fifty injured.
2013.09.22 Pakistan Peshawar 85 110 Two Jundullah suicide bombers obliterate over eighty-five worshippers at a church service, including many women and children.
2013.09.22 Israel Hebron 1 0 An Israeli soldier is killed by a Palestinian sniper.
2013.09.22 Iraq Baghdad 12 35 A sectarian suicide bomber hits a funeral, killing at least a dozen mourners.
2013.09.22 Yemen Maarib 4 2 Four tribesmen lose their lives to an al-Qaeda ambush.
2013.09.22 Afghanistan Shorabak 11 0 Eleven local cops are sprayed with Taliban machine-gun fire.

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But they are just misunderstood, they didn't mean to blow up all of those people, it just kind of happened. But by all means, keep apologizing for them.
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby the truth » Oct 22nd, 2013, 3:39 pm

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,that many,holly sh''''t
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby logicalview » Oct 22nd, 2013, 5:01 pm

It just gets better and better...

Sultan of Brunei introduces tough Islamic punishments

BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN — The Sultan of Brunei introduced tough Sharia-law punishments on Tuesday including death by stoning for crimes such as adultery, hailing what he called a “historic” step toward Islamic orthodoxy for his sleepy country.

Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah — one of the world’s wealthiest men — said a new Sharia Penal Code in the works for years was officially introduced Tuesday in the tiny, oil-flush sultanate and would be phased in beginning in six months.

Based on individual cases, punishments could include stoning to death for adultery, severing of limbs for theft, and flogging for violations ranging from abortion to alcohol consumption, according to a copy of the code.

The code applies only to Muslims.

“By the grace of Allah, with the coming into effect of this legislation, our duty to Allah is therefore being fulfilled,” the sultan, 67, said in a speech.

An absolute monarch whose family has tightly controlled the languid, oil-rich country of 400,000 for six centuries, the sultan first called in 1996 for the introduction of Sharia criminal punishments.

The sultan already imposes a relatively conservative brand of Islam on his subjects, compared to Brunei’s Southeast Asian Muslim neighbors, Malaysia and Indonesia.

Brunei bans the sale and public consumption of alcohol and closely restricts other religions.

But Sharia has been a rare point of contention in a land where the sultan’s word is unquestioned, with many Bruneians quietly grumbling that the concept is out of step with the affluent country’s laid-back ethnic Malay society.

“These rights-abusing policies are a good indication of why modern democracy and the right of people to participate in their government is a much better idea than anachronistic absolute monarchy,” said Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director for Human Rights Watch.

The situation shows that “respect for basic civil and political rights is near zero in Brunei,” he added.

The monarch himself has acknowledged concerns over Sharia in recent years as the code was being drafted.

Compatible with Malay culture?

It was not immediately clear how aggressively it would be enforced.

Two years ago, the Attorney-General’s office promised Brunei would apply an extremely high burden of proof for Sharia cases and judges would have wide discretion in applying it, in comments apparently aimed at easing public fears.

“It seems almost incompatible with Malay culture, which is peace-loving,” said Tuah Ibrahim, 57, driver of a boat taxi in the capital Bandar Seri Begawan.

He said Sharia can be acceptable if proportionate to the crime, but adds: “I can’t imagine our country turning into somewhere like Saudi Arabia.”

Brunei already has a dual system combining civil courts based on British law — the sultanate was a British protectorate until 1984 — and Sharia-compliant courts limited to personal and family issues such as marriage and inheritance.

Nearly 70 percent of Brunei’s people are Muslim ethnic Malays. About 15 percent are non-Muslim ethnic Chinese, followed by indigenous tribes and other groups.

Bankrolled by South China Sea oil and gas fields, Brunei has one of Asia’s highest standards of living, including free medical care and education through the university level.

The monarch’s wealth — estimated at $20 billion by Forbes magazine two years ago — and luxurious lifestyle have become legendary, with reports emerging of his vast collection of luxury vehicles and gold-bedecked palaces.

The monarchy was deeply embarrassed by a sensational family feud between Hassanal and his younger brother Jefri Bolkiah over the latter’s alleged embezzlement of 15 billion dollars during his tenure as finance minister in the 1990s.

Subsequent court battles and exposes revealed salacious details of Jefri’s un-Islamic jet-set lifestyle, including allegations of a high-priced harem of Western paramours and a luxury yacht he owned called “*bleep*.”

Despite a suave image overseas, the sultan repeatedly warns at home of the potential impact that increasing integration with the world could have on Brunei’s moral values and has leaned towards Islamic orthodoxy of late.

In the past year, the government introduced mandatory religious education for all Muslim children and ordered all businesses closed during Friday prayers.

In his speech, the sultan appeared to try to assuage any international concerns that may arise, saying the Sharia change “does not in any way change our policies … as a member of the family of nations.”


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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby Glacier » Oct 23rd, 2013, 12:43 pm

There are many good Muslims like the mayor of Calgary, and most are non-violent, however, Islam is a violent ideology like Fascism or Nazism. Ever since its inception 1400 years ago, Islam has been the fast growing religion in the world (including those of no religion), and there is no sign that won't continue to be so until Islam does dominate the world.

The definition of insanity is to watch a formula repeat for 1400 years, and then expect a different result this time. Islam continues to grow like cancer, and wherever Islam dominates, chaos rules.

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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby logicalview » Oct 23rd, 2013, 1:41 pm

Death toll this week so far (and remember it's only Wednesday):

2013.10.23 Mali Tessalit 3 0 Three people are killed during a suicide assault by Jihadists.
2013.10.22 Iraq Rutba 10 6 Ten Iraqis are exterminated by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.10.22 Iraq Hit 3 4 al-Qaeda members shoot a mortar into a house, killing three family members including a child.
2013.10.21 Nigeria Borno 10 0 Pro-Sharia militants burn down houses and shoot dead ten villagers.
2013.10.21 Russia Volgograd 6 37 A Muslim woman detonates an explosives-laden suicide vest on a bus, killing six strangers.

Only 32 killed, 47 injured since Sunday. So far it's a slow week!

I just don't get the headlong rush by Leftists to defend this constant senseless killing. As soon as anyone criticizes them for it, there's a Leftist, apologizing for it, with the caveat that "all religion is bad" or some such nonsense, as somehow that makes the constant Muslim killing ok?

Here's a great video of the blithering idiot Avi Lewis of the CBC trying to argue with ex-Muslim Aayan Hirsi Ali, a woman currently under 24 hour protection on threat of death from Muslim extremists, trying to "educate" her on why her beliefs and life experiences are meaningless compared to the Leftist version of Islam and how they are "under siege". What a bonehead...

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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby baconbits » Oct 23rd, 2013, 1:57 pm

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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby Glacier » Oct 23rd, 2013, 2:08 pm

baconbits wrote:And how many innocent people have been killed in US drone strikes?

That's a different topic.
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby steven lloyd » Oct 23rd, 2013, 4:04 pm

Glacier wrote: ..., Islam is a violent ideology like Fascism or Nazism. Ever since its inception 1400 years ago, Islam has been the fast growing religion in the world (including those of no religion), and there is no sign that won't continue to be so until Islam does dominate the world. The definition of insanity is to watch a formula repeat for 1400 years, and then expect a different result this time. Islam continues to grow like cancer, and wherever Islam dominates, chaos rules.

Indeed. Islam is a real threat, a global threat and it is important that people see it for the menace it already presents as. Childishly calling people ridiculous names that inaccurately describe the foundation of their lack of real appreciation of the issue only serves to entrench the division in the discussion. This discussion is far too important for such a juvenile approach.

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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby Queen K » Oct 23rd, 2013, 4:52 pm

the truth wrote:daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,that many,holly sh''''t


Yes, that many. I've been watching the news and adding it up in my head how many Islamic attacks have been going on, the problem is that one can't possibly be glued to the news 24/7. The other problem is that it's such a global phenomena that it's difficult to wrap ones head around all the countries involved.

I didn't realize there was an official list is all.

Logicalview, we don't always agree but on this topic we do. We've got real problems coming, not first World problems of a trivial nature.
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby GordonH » Oct 23rd, 2013, 5:08 pm

Yep, the *blank* is about to hit the fan. Interesting part is which *blank* and which fan will be first.
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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby WhatThe » Oct 23rd, 2013, 5:11 pm

My apologies first, but nut jobs, religious wingnuts, all of them....Including Christians. Inflammatory yes but what I think of "followers".

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Re: Whose Islam?

Postby logicalview » Oct 24th, 2013, 8:23 am

The Horrible Tactic the Taliban Is Once Again Using With Children to Fulfill Death Missions

Taliban extremists have kidnapped more than 100 children from Afghanistan and Pakistan in the last year to use for suicide missions against government officials and U.S. troops still fighting in the region, U.S. and Pakistani sources told TheBlaze.

It’s a resurgence of old tactics to indoctrinate child suicide bombers, and means suicide training in extremist schools are once again a threat to Western civilians and troops, a U.S. counterterrorism official said.

Extremists in the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan are on their heels, but recruitment and radicalization in the region pose a long-term challenge,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the nature of their work. “Radical madrassas and other extremist training centers continue to prey on and poison young minds—in some cases encouraging violence against local and Western interests.”

The kidnappings and establishment of extremist madrassas, or religious schools, in Pakistan’s remote Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) signal a revival in the Taliban’s power base just as the U.S. is preparing to withdraw from the region next year.

Several Pakistani sources told TheBlaze that one of the training camps is in northeastern Afghanistan’s dangerous Kunar province, while the other children are taken into Pakistan’s lawless FATA borderland.

The exact number of children kidnapped or even purchased by the Taliban may vary, as Pakistani citizens and nonprofit groups working in the region cannot confirm with accuracy the exact number out of fear for their safety. Additionally, some parents refuse to report their children missing, and others who have sold their children fear retribution from local authorities, as well as from the Taliban.

Bruce Riedel, a Brookings Institution scholar who spent more than 30 years as a CIA analyst and has worked with the National Security Council and Pentagon, said the Taliban has become more emboldened in recent years and continues to threaten the stability of Pakistan and the rest of the region.

“The Taliban have a well-established track record of using the most vulnerable in society to carry out terrorist attacks,” said Riedel, who also headed President Barack Obama’s original Pakistan and Afghanistan strategy.

In 2009, U.S. military and Pakistani officials confirmed to this reporter that Pakistan’s then-top Taliban leader, Baitullah Mehsud, was buying children ages 7 to 16 to serve as suicide bombers against American, Pakistani and Afghan targets. In a nation where the per capita income is $2,600 per year, the children could be sold for $7,000 to $14,000, Pakistani officials confirmed at the time. Mehsud was killed by a U.S. drone strike in 2009.

Pakistani individuals who work closely with groups in the FATA region said abducted children are not only being taken to extremist religious schools in Pakistan but that some are sent to militant training camps in Afghanistan’s Nuristan and Kunar provinces. The training camps are comprised of Pakistani and Afghanistan Taliban members, as well as some foreign fighters, and prepare kids for suicide attacks.

A U.S. military official who has conducted operations in the region confirmed to TheBlaze that extremist religious schools have been targeted by U.S. security forces in the Kunar province in the past but “most military operations avoid targeting the religious centers where we know a lot of the training is taking place.” The official could not say whether religious schools in Kunar are presently being used as training for suicide attacks.

Oscar Seara, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command, said International Security Forces Assistance (ISAF) personnel in Afghanistan “are still trying to track the veracity of the allegation.”

A village resident in Kunar province who became a Taliban fighter in 2009 told TheBlaze he fled the training camps this year because he disagreed with the tactics used by the religious leaders in the encampment. His own son was taken from him and sent to one of the madrassas.

“I will never forget what I saw during last three years and will never forget my son when I lost him,” the resident, Muhammed, said through a Pakistani translator familiar with the region and who worked with TheBlaze for this story.

More than 70 children under the age of 18 from both Pakistan and Afghanistan are still in Taliban camps in Kunar and in the difficult-to-reach eastern mountains of Nuristan, Muhammed estimated.

Muhammed said at least 10 children have been used in various suicide attacks inside Pakistan in the last year. He noted that some of the children were sent to Afghanistan’s dangerous Kandahar province “for an unknown mission.”

A total of 34 suicide attacks took place in Pakistan in 2012, killing 333 people and injuring more than 500.

“There are several camps (run) by militants in Kunar and I think more than 800 Pakistani national militants are present in Kunar and Nuristan camps,” Muhammed said. “Some are belonging to other countries as well.”

Militant leaders keep abducted children separated, providing them food and facilities to keep them content, and allowing very limited access, he said.

“I saw some children who (were) weeping and requesting … to go to their home but (they) never allowed anyone to go back,” Muhammed said.


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