A.T.V.'s
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- Übergod
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sherriff wrote:Time to let quads back into the bush. Lot more humidity and moisture than when they were restricted. Many people have plans that involve their use and the risk from when they were banned has diminished.
Totally disagree, still far too dry out there. Let's give it another week minimum and see!
- Frisk
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Yes I think it'd be fine to allow them. I'm sure they probably will within the next couple days.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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I think anything with a spark arrester should be good to go, dirtbikes with none should be banned!
Oh, and uninsured, un-registered dirt bikes should be patrolled and ticketed, far too many ripping down forest service roads like raped apes!
Oh, and uninsured, un-registered dirt bikes should be patrolled and ticketed, far too many ripping down forest service roads like raped apes!
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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We get a tiny bit of rain and people want back into the bush already with equipment, people like this are the reason for all the fires this years, stupidity and entitlement at its best!!
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390625 wrote:We get a tiny bit of rain and people want back into the bush already with equipment, people like this are the reason for all the fires this years, stupidity and entitlement at its best!!
Origin of most fires actually, is unknown. Don't know of any proven to be quads. So many accusations before anybody knows!!!
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- Fledgling
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number one cause of forest fires newly weds in sleeping bags
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- Newbie
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The point is why rush anything that could be a risk with the fire season we had. Many of the fires this year are human caused, the one in Princeton was from logging equipment.
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- Lord of the Board
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390625 wrote:We get a tiny bit of rain and people want back into the bush already with equipment, people like this are the reason for all the fires this years, stupidity and entitlement at its best!!
Good lord.
- Rain hasn't been huge but it's not insignificant and there's more in the forecast.
- ATVs rarely start fires. There's a reason why firebans happen well before off roading bans and why off roading bans are fairly rare.
- Temps are getting lower every day. Even if a fire was to start tomorrow it wouldn't go far.
Any other year and there would not be an off roading ban with the current conditions. "Stupidity and entitlement" is a case of kettle calling the pot black here.
- Frisk
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390625 wrote:We get a tiny bit of rain and people want back into the bush already with equipment, people like this are the reason for all the fires this years, stupidity and entitlement at its best!!
It isn't July anymore. There isn't weeks of hot weather in the forecast.
It's the middle of September. Rain has a significantly stronger effect this time of year with the cooler temperatures and later afternoon recovery times. There isn't a single day in Kelowna's 7 day forecast over 20 degrees.
Without the critical moisture levels & higher temperatures the fire risk drops substantially.
The risk of small surface fires like the one in Naramata yesterday will probably remain for a while like it does every fall since the flash fuels like grass are all dead this time of year but the risk of anything higher than a rank 2 or 3 is basically nonexistent.
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The problem with the ATV restrictions at present is the inherently discriminatory regulation itself. Its ok for quad tours and guides, etc, but not the regular taxpayer.
All motor vehicles can cause a fire if the conditions permit and the triangle of ignition is favorable. Some vehicles are worse than others for causing problems. Current conditions are dropping off now.
And for the record, my ATV is my hiking boots and I travel many, many miles in them.
All motor vehicles can cause a fire if the conditions permit and the triangle of ignition is favorable. Some vehicles are worse than others for causing problems. Current conditions are dropping off now.
And for the record, my ATV is my hiking boots and I travel many, many miles in them.
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390625 wrote:We get a tiny bit of rain and people want back into the bush already with equipment, people like this are the reason for all the fires this years, stupidity and entitlement at its best!!
No it isn't the reason. Some stupid smokers are, and failed attempt at back burns and lightning.
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Ok the one thing I don't understand is if quads and side by sides are not allowed in the bush why are vehicle's at the moment. I think a ban should be a ban.
The exhaust on either one of my side by sides is a lot less likely to cause a fire than my truck.
The exhaust on most vehicles is less then a foot off the ground. It is tucked under the vehicle and is exposed to all tall grass.
The exhaust on a quad or side by side is usually over 2' off the ground and has a spark arrester. They are also plated just like a vehicle. My side by sides or quads are a lot less likely to cause a fire then a lot of vehicles I personally see in the bush.
Now im not saying we should be allowed back in yet by any means. But I do think a ban should be a ban not just off road vehicles like dirt bikes,quads and side by sides.
The ban should ban every one unless your personal home is in the bush. No vehicles what so ever .
The only exemptions would be emergency personnel only.
The exhaust on either one of my side by sides is a lot less likely to cause a fire than my truck.
The exhaust on most vehicles is less then a foot off the ground. It is tucked under the vehicle and is exposed to all tall grass.
The exhaust on a quad or side by side is usually over 2' off the ground and has a spark arrester. They are also plated just like a vehicle. My side by sides or quads are a lot less likely to cause a fire then a lot of vehicles I personally see in the bush.
Now im not saying we should be allowed back in yet by any means. But I do think a ban should be a ban not just off road vehicles like dirt bikes,quads and side by sides.
The ban should ban every one unless your personal home is in the bush. No vehicles what so ever .
The only exemptions would be emergency personnel only.