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you could have a isis flag . that make you a terrorist truth ? or misguided ?
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Hey Trump.............in case you are unaware, Las Vegas, like Peurto Rico is inhabited by American citizens..........just a heads up before you say something stupid again.
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maryjane48 wrote: theres no evidence the guy in edm was involved interrorism either. isis claimed resposability in vegas. how is that not evidence. the only difference is ones white and christian . the other is supposedly muslim . thats it
There was evidence in the Edmonton case, not in this one (yet).
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what evidence ? that he was non white is only thing concrete at this point . flags or isis endorsments dont mean anything
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maryjane48 wrote: theres no evidence the guy in edm was involved interrorism either. isis claimed resposability in vegas. how is that not evidence. the only difference is ones white and christian . the other is supposedly muslim . thats it

I've asked already, proof he's Christian?

ISIS will claim responsibility for literally everything. The one in Edmonton had an ISIS flag and is likely being interviewed as we speak. The one in Vegas had no reported terrorist propaganda and is dead.

So you can go ahead and explain how, based on the information provided, the Vegas incident was an act of terror.
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Whether it's terrorism or mass murder, does it change anything for you. Does anyone feel better about the situation or themselves to call it terrorism vs. mass murder? Do you feel safer one way or the other? I don't see how the definition affects any of us one way or the other. Both are terrible acts committed by crazy, unstable people.
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They’re not alone," Kelly said at a news conference outside the U.S. Capitol. "This is the worst case scenario. It’s haunted our dreams."

"This was an ambush if there ever was one," he said. "This was domestic terrorism."

While Kelly said he and Giffords are praying for the victims, he criticized Congress for not acting.

Kelly and Giffords co-founded the gun violence prevention organization Americans for Responsible Solutions after Giffords suffered a gunshot to her head at a constituent meeting in a supermarket parking lot on Jan. 8, 2011 in Tucson.

"Your thoughts and prayers are not going to stop the next shooting," he said. "Only action and leadership will do that."

Kelly emphasized that the massacre in Las Vegas could have been even worse if the shooter had a silencer, or if victims were armed and returning fire.

"We do not have to live this way," he said. "It’s an epidemic that needs to be cured.

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Both were terrorist acts. Period. It's just easier for people to accept the term when being used to describe someone who is sympathetic to a radical and violent group .

Not sure what being at an anti Trump protest (if it even was him) has to do with anything. Millions of people attended similar protests. The west is a stronghold for democrats.
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cops now saying 18 additional guns found plus explosives . doesnt sound like typical american gun nut. this person was getting ready to blow stuff up :smt045

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So you can go ahead and explain how, based on the information provided, the Vegas incident was an act of terror.
cops found bombs at his house . what more do you need ? hes dead . but under nevada law it is a act of terrorism. google nevada law on terrorism . its there in black and white
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maryjane48 wrote:you could have a isis flag . that make you a terrorist truth ? or misguided ?

so if the vegas shooter had a nazi flag, you would be calling him a racist nazi, but your way of thinking i guess he is just misguided
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While mass shootings do indeed strike terror in the hearts of people, they are not usually political acts designed to influence events in the same way that terrorism is. Most mass murderers have some kind of mental health issues that make them want to lash out at the world for perceived "wrongs" done to them. Whereas terrorists are perfectly sane people, who hold radical beliefs that they try to force on others by using violence to scare them into submission.

Terrorists consider themselves to be "freedom fighters" doing what is necessary to "save the world". Which is why it's impossible to compromise with a terrorist, because in their mind any viewpoint other than the cause they believe in is wrong, or evil, or both. It's black and white; there are no shades of grey.

It's important to make the distinction between the two groups of murderers, because the way to deal with each is different.

Mentally ill people who might resort to violence need to be recognized and treated before they are able to commit such heinous acts. Whereas sane people who are prepared to commit violence to further their particular world view need to identified, and either incarcerated or eliminated. I don't much care which.
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he may have been a nazi . but it has zero to do with flags . i do consider nazis terrorists. *removed* i have said many times there is no terrorists. just criminals. it is you who wants to play identity politics . :smt045 . but according to nevada state law it was a terrorist attack. and now with bombs in the mix it is clear . this non muslim did kill more folks than any muslim will in canada in hundred years plus .
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In other news, a lot of people are somewhat happy about this shooting... https://twitter.com/cryingcassie/status ... 5711518720
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. Whereas terrorists are perfectly sane people, who hold radical beliefs that they try to force on others by using violence to scare them into submission.
how do you know this ? did you interview anyone or just going on what facebook told you ? this guy had bombs but facts are nevada state laws say it was terrorism . why is that not good enough for you ? you know better than state of nevada now ?
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