Changes at Hwy 97 & Stickle Rd north-end of Vernon

[dontrump]

the 20 street ext looks like what we get but one way to me makes no sense what so ever

[dontrump]

What are you talking about? A 3rd party confirmed that rear end accidents would go up by 60% if they installed a light at that intersection.

I get you would prefer the cheap fix over the safest one but this is the best solution possible.

I seriously don't believe that . there are hundreds of stop lite intersections in Vernon Kelowna westbank etc in high traffic areas
Is that what happened in all these intersections? 60% more rear end collisions? its funny they implemented so many when they had to know such a danger was then guaranteed? like said I call BS on that study

[Ingevan22]

So why can’t we just extend 20th and be done with it?

Three rights make a left could be the solution to 32nd Street & other Vernon area traffic woes. The fastest way through town is the highway - if you eliminate left turns, traffic will move faster. 2 minutes at 50km/hr to get through Vernon = no need for a spendy bypass. Turn right to access local businesses. I don't agree with asking locals to pay for tourists, etc. to bypass our town. Curious as to your thoughts?

[Gixxer]

I seriously don't believe that . there are hundreds of stop lite intersections in Vernon Kelowna westbank etc in high traffic areas
Is that what happened in all these intersections? 60% more rear end collisions? its funny they implemented so many when they had to know such a danger was then guaranteed? like said I call BS on that study

Right because that study has all the reason to be B.S.

[jasond_71]

I agree. Put a meridian from army camp to vernon square mall. Add maybe 3 left turn lanes between there and it would solve the traffic congestion. You can't turn in winfield or kelowna without left turn lane off highway.

[dontrump]

I seriously don't believe that . there are hundreds of stop lite intersections in Vernon Kelowna westbank etc in high traffic areas
Is that what happened in all these intersections? 60% more rear end collisions? its funny they implemented so many when they had to know such a danger was then guaranteed? like said I call BS on that study

Right because that study has all the reason to be B.S.

not all studies are created equal and not all studies are correct

[bob vernon]

1. Put in the light.

2. Get that fill out of the marsh.

3. Fix those dips on the overpass. In a heavy thunderstorm (which we haven't had this year) the dips fill with water, drain slowly, and cause hydroplaning.

[dontrump]

1. Put in the light.

2. Get that fill out of the marsh.

3. Fix those dips on the overpass. In a heavy thunderstorm (which we haven't had this year) the dips fill with water, drain slowly, and cause hydroplaning.

#1 the only logical affordable solution

#2 Too late (imagine if a private party started filling there) the outcry would be ear piercing

#3 Agreed ;; funny you and I the minions who know nothing see this fault but those
MOT characters do not

[GordonH]

^^^ that overpass was a up from day 1.

As I've said no light needed.... no extension of 20th st needed. Just remove lefts from that spot, just use PVR to Butcher Boys & hang a right. Damn cheap

[Dizzy1]

1. Put in the light.

2. Get that fill out of the marsh.

3. Fix those dips on the overpass. In a heavy thunderstorm (which we haven't had this year) the dips fill with water, drain slowly, and cause hydroplaning.

#1 the only logical affordable solution

A light is the most illogical "solution".

[Gixxer]

1. Put in the light.

2. Get that fill out of the marsh.

3. Fix those dips on the overpass. In a heavy thunderstorm (which we haven't had this year) the dips fill with water, drain slowly, and cause hydroplaning.

1. Worst idea ever. That highway doesn't need another light, and will also cause accidents.

2. Its a swamp. Theres plenty more. Human lives are more important than some mud water.

3. Agreed that overpass, and the dips need some attention. Although driving accordingly to weather conditions will prevent hydro planning

[dontrump]

If we did a survey of all people in Vernon that actually have knowledge of the stickle road debate I
guarantee you it would be 80% for traffic lite system

[Loki2u]

If we did a survey of all people in Vernon that actually have knowledge of the stickle road debate I
guarantee you it would be 80% for traffic lite system

Define knowledge. I would guarantee those same 80% don't work in a related field where their expertise is called on to make such decisions. What looks good on paper doesn't mean it's the best course of action.

My knowledge of stickle road would be defined as "awareness" of what the debate is about and the issues that intersection presents. It doesn't mean I know what's best for a proposed solution.

That's why the city consults outside agencies that specifically deal with these sorts of matters because that is what they do! Imagine if it was only us "knowledgeable" citizens that made every single decision on things like this.

I don't know if the proposed solution is the best course of action or not. I have to trust the people that are better equipped to make these decisions know what they're doing.

[dontrump]

its disappointing to me that something as obvious and simple as what a traffic lite system at stickle road installed 4 years ago would have allowed 1) situation solved at minimal expense 2) the 20+++ million there now going to waste could go towards needed new infrastructures needed elsewhere 3) would have saved who knows how many wasted tax dollars and man hours on slanted unrequired surveys and studies
I often wonder if the same planers that decided on this ridiculous one way road that I GUARANTEE you will lead to a
traffic bottleneck at MacDonalds were the ones that also designed the most ridiculous 14 foot wide bike /hiking trail to nowhere on kal lake road

[Dizzy1]

If we did a survey of all people in Vernon that actually have knowledge of the stickle road debate I
guarantee you it would be 80% for traffic lite system

LOL! In other words, "knowledge" would be defined as those who agree with you