R.I.P. young one

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Wonder why the media never reports...... killed by a car driven by a plumber, or car driven by a dentist?

Very sad regardless, terrible day yesterday.
great question , i think thev more people are aware of pedestrians the better
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Very sad for everyone involved. I feel for the family, the father a EMT, he will likely know the fellow who killed his child. This is very sad.
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You seem to be conveniently overlooking the fact that the RCMP are not investigating this- the IIO is. And as I said in another post, if the driver was any other occupation other than a police officer, you wouldn't blink twice. You'd sum it up to it being an unfortunate accident and move on. But no, you need someone to hate on. You need someone to condemn whilst you stand atop your soap box. Do you honestly think this driver feels good about what happened....?

Look at the facts over the occupation and let the IIO do their job[/quote]

Completely unfair..... In no way am I making a point of this BECAUSE he is a police officer. Merely stating the much known fact that the RCMP will go out of their way to get the officer the least amount of justice served. Any driver that turns right at an intersection and plows over a child on a bike, hears and sees someone yelling at him, comes to a stop, then makes the decision to proceed. Deserves FULL prosecution by the law.

Try again with your rhetoric......
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Relying on media reports and the words of a distraught parent is a poor way to gather the evidence to make a judgment. That would be why there will be an investigation.
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wanderingchef wrote:Just brutal. The father did EVERYTHING right and ended up watching his child die right in front of him. I hope this driver gets nailed to the cross. Pretty sure we all know nothing will come of this. The RCMP does nothing better then protect their own. Keep your eyes peeled out there folks. We are all someone's brother, sister, mom and dad.


Two things in this post:
1) "the father did everything right". If there was indeed a green arrow, then the pedestrian light would have been a signal to stop.

2) "the RCMP does nothing better than protect their own". This is why the IIO (Independent Investigative Office) is investigating. These people are not RCMP and investigate independently so that there is no chance of a conflict of interest.

Let's let the IIO do their job before we pick up our pitch forks and torches.
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That "green arrow" part makes me confused. I will wait for the report before judging.

The most recent news report says that the truck was turning right, onto the Parkway, to go south.
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Completely unfair..... In no way am I making a point of this BECAUSE he is a police officer. Merely stating the much known fact that the RCMP will go out of their way to get the officer the least amount of justice served. Any driver that turns right at an intersection and plows over a child on a bike, hears and sees someone yelling at him, comes to a stop, then makes the decision to proceed. Deserves FULL prosecution by the law.


So, you were there? You saw the car make the turn? You saw the child struck by the car? You saw the father waving madly at the car to stop? You saw the car proceed despite the fathers efforts to stop it?

Thank god no one is relying on you for expert testimony.
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I was at the scene when IIO were documenting.
By the lanes that were blocked and the position of the truck, I would surmise that the truck turned left from Fairview onto the channel parkway. There is no turning arrow going in that direction.
I drive through that intersection nearly every day. The sun setting over that hill, just at the right angle, through a dirty windshield, could definitely obscure a driver's vision.
Can't figure why he would start to pull away though?
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Your all too funny.

No I was not there... I can read though. Especially Dads recounting of the events.


Surmise all you want Dawnland. Dad clearly states the truck was turning right from Green Mtn Rd.

Show me a track record of the IIO following thru with investigations and getting solid sentences for RCMP offenders and I might back down..... slightly. First question I would want answered, was the officer given a sobriety test immediately on site? If not the case is immediately in conflict. Had it been a random citizen that would have been the first protocol. Not an after thought.
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wanderingchef wrote:Your all too funny.

No I was not there... I can read though. Especially Dads recounting of the events.


Surmise all you want Dawnland. Dad clearly states the truck was turning right from Green Mtn Rd.

Show me a track record of the IIO following thru with investigations and getting solid sentences for RCMP offenders and I might back down..... slightly. First question I would want answered, was the officer given a sobriety test immediately on site? If not the case is immediately in conflict. Had it been a random citizen that would have been the first protocol. Not an after thought.


Surmise all you want, wanderingchef. You were also not there. You are just making assumptions and trying to troll up the pot.

Alcohol has already been ruled out as a factor.
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onestop67 wrote:
Alcohol has already been ruled out as a factor.



Really? Where did you see alcohol has been ruled out?
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Global identifies officer.

Global News has learned the RCMP officer involved is Ace Stewart, an aboriginal member who works on the Penticton Indian Reserve. It’s not known if Stewart has agreed to be interviewed by investigators.
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Oh dear, strike 3 in the public opinion poll, big truck, cop, and native.

I was driving through a residential area about a month ago. There was a woman sitting on her front steps, she appeared to be waving hello. I'm not sure why I stopped, but I did. As I got out of my vehicle, she said she had fallen and had been sitting there most of the morning and couldn't get up. She said everyone just drove by, honestly I too thought she was just waving, it was a warm beautiful day.

If someone was waving at you in a busy intersection, would you automatically think there is a child under your car?

My heartfelt condolences to everyone involved.
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When you are driving a car' a bike or walking do you really think because it's a green light you are safe? Green means go not safe.

I am the parent of a young child and that was the first thing I taught him. When the light says go, you don't go until you have made eye contact with every person in the vehicles involved before crossing. Once you have made eye contact proceed because then they know you are there. An RCMP officer taught me that! The intersection where this accident happened is busy, personally I wouldn't have my young child crossing there and if I was I would most definitely been right beside him.

I have extreme compasion for the family of this young man as well as the RCMP officer. Everyone is bashing him, I think mainly because he is a cop, but did you stop to think that maybe he has a wife and child or children. The family of this young mans life has changed forever but so has his and his family.

It was an accident not someone just out on a mission to destroy. It could happen to anyone! Have compassion and wait for the facts before you decide to be the judge and jury.

And castanet-shame on you for how you presented this!
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zookeeper wrote:O

If someone was waving at you in a busy intersection, would you automatically think there is a child under your car?



I'm pretty sure the thump from running over a body would tip me off that something was wrong. At least if I was reasonably sober. This person wasn't an old lady delivering newspapers in a dark alley at night. This was a trained police officer.

This is the view someone approaching that intersection would have of the crosswalk. Could someone explain to me how someone--never mind a trained officer--could approach and not see the crosswalk is occupied? Explain it to me like I'm five.

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