Millions for cultural centre

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Brass Monkey wrote:
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sorry that don't make sense and like I have said if it was a project that was inclusive of most all the people and not a super small selective group it may make some sense (eg) most al all people use pools (eg) most all people use buses (eg) most all people use walk systems like rail trail; (eg) most all people use public beaches



It's not a segregated facility, why is not inclusive? They held a pow-wow at the college the other day and hundreds piled in to watch. Kelowna is rapidly diversifying and believe it or not there are many people out there in the world that are interested in First Nations culture.


then let the Indians finance such a system as they already get billions in tax monies yes there are people interested my point is
its a small small % of the over all tax payers that are interested its not like 40% its like .0004 %
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dontrump wrote:
then let the Indians finance such a system as they already get billions in tax monies yes there are people interested my point is
its a small small % of the over all tax payers that are interested its not like 40% its like .0004 %



Where is the billions in tax funds that ONA gets? As member of ONA I’ve yet to receive a dollar of this supposed billions you’re talking about.

The majority of people who visit Indigenous culture museums are not Indigenous people who already live that culture...look at the Museum of Anthropology in Vancouver.
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Was there not a big argument why the natives didnt get the rail trail land back ? I mean after the railway took it . I’m sure its likely another stain on the relationship. They had to have somewhere for the walkers to squat and get a bottle of water . So why not call the indian interior decorators ( likely not native ) to pretend it is some sort of tribute. I wonder if thats a type of brown face now ?.... anyways . You will see maybe 2 indians a year there if i had to bet. Be mostly the sun hat , high vis and walking poles crowd.
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Lots of chatter about these funds.... just wondering if because we offer 4 million of tax dollars from hidden slush funds... the " Frist Nations" agree to let people use "THIER " portion of the rail trail.... for some time... it seemed like a toll booth was one option suggested...lol,,,,, just food for thought on how things work .... !!
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polelady wrote:Lots of chatter about these funds.... just wondering if because we offer 4 million of tax dollars from hidden slush funds... the " Frist Nations" agree to let people use "THIER " portion of the rail trail.... for some time... it seemed like a toll booth was one option suggested...lol,,,,, just food for thought on how things work .... !!


If owned by First Nations then it is privately owned...you wouldn’t let the city build a walkway through your property without some form of compensation would you?
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Who owned the "rail" previously? Who paid what, to whom, for the use of that rail?

Is it just because the rails were removed and replaced by a trail change the terms and conditions of whatever agreement was in place? What would the natives gain if it was just left as a rail?
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alanjh595 wrote:Who owned the "rail" previously? Who paid what, to whom, for the use of that rail?

Is it just because the rails were removed and replaced by a trail change the terms and conditions of whatever agreement was in place? What would the natives gain if it was just left as a rail?



The Federal Government has maintained the right to expropriate up to 20% of reserve lands for necessary uses, and when that use/purpose has been fulfilled or becomes obsolete then that expropriated land goes back to the original owners. When the government originally took that land there was no compensation (unless I am mistaken). The railway at one time was necessary for commuting and for running supplies in and out of town, that is no longer the case, the rail is rendered obsolete. The trail that currently exists is not necessary by any means, it is purely leisure. I do not know where the reserver boundary originally existed so i cannot say who owns what or where
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Stop making sane, sensible, and rational statements. You're just getting in the way of us being able to demonize another minority.
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bob vernon wrote:Stop making sane, sensible, and rational statements. You're just getting in the way of us being able to demonize another minority.


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This project is still going and will become more of an issue in the new year.

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