Construction West of The Rise

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NachoManRandySalad wrote:Each morning on my commute to work along Bench Row, I look across the lake and see what looks like another phase of The Rise development perhaps? Does anybody happen to know what is going up there? Looks as if the access takes off of Okanagan Hills Blvd after the first switch.

What else could it be? Winery? They're shaving the top of the hill quite aggressively.

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looked it up last summer super rich dude out of the coast has a huge winery system in the ok valley and is building a 600 acre winery and I believe there will house ;lots for sale also eventually
the amount of time spent there so far and high dollar equipment they have had there its huge $$$ operation for sure

the guy who owns it is Frind he started the internet dating site called kettle of fish and sold it for almost $600 million


Actually called. "Plenty of Fish" I think you are referring to the fish store in downtown Vernon. :)

There are no permits for houses...and actually none for Vineyards yet.

ALL the properties including beside the Rise and ALL below Bella Vista belong to Frind...no Gretzty or any other.
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sab30 wrote:Actually called. "Plenty of Fish"

Ah, PoF. So many memories [icon_lol2.gif]
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sab30 wrote:ALL the properties including beside the Rise and ALL below Bella Vista belong to Frind...no Gretzty or any other.

That's what my sources have told me (at least the properties on Bella Vista that are currently being worked on).
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the property left of the rise about 500 acres is Frind the small 4 property's on bella vista belong to a group of east Indians that used them as orchards and growing vegetables and some of it was just vacant for last few years
nothing to do with Frind that i can establish but who knows? with the HUGE amount of money being spent on the 4 propertys on bella vista maybe Frind is behind it
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One needs to talk to the people that live on Bella Vista.
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dontrump wrote:the property left of the rise about 500 acres is Frind the small 4 property's on bella vista belong to a group of east Indians that used them as orchards and growing vegetables and some of it was just vacant for last few years
nothing to do with Frind that i can establish but who knows? with the HUGE amount of money being spent on the 4 propertys on bella vista maybe Frind is behind it


ALL have been purchased by Frind. It's his people prepping the plots. Correct HUGE money. He is going at this believing scale is the answer. Some estimate he will own 10% of total BC Vineyards when complete.
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dontrump wrote: but who knows? with the HUGE amount of money being spent on the 4 propertys on bella vista maybe Frind is behind it
That's what some of the previous owners that were bought out are saying - at least that's my understanding.
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I've been curious about that construction too! Last I heard, there's a mix of speculation about it being part of The Rise development or something entirely new. The aggressive landscaping does make it look more significant than just a small project.
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Is it on city sewer and water? Will there be any connection fees for these properties? If there are fees will they be anything close to the fees that Landing residents had to pay for connecting to the city sewer line that runs into town from Predator Ridge? What will be the DCC charges on these homes? This project is starting to take on the usual odor of a big Okanagan real estate project where the existing city residents pick up the tab and the developers pick up huge profits.
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Last I heard, the developer (Frind) will be contributing to the new $30M+ Tronson Road Greater Vernon Water pump station at Kin Beach that will be required to pump raw water from OK Lake to serve Frind’s irrigation demand.

It is unfortunate that our City’s high quality reclaimed water still cannot legally be used on food crops such as Frind’s grapes as the infrastructure is already in place at the Rise, also with enhanced UV treatment.

As for housing - any construction on Frind’s lands for purposes other than agriculture would require rezoning which is unlikely. Funny enough, some of the grapes at the Rise were required to be removed as those particular lands (173 Vineyard Way) were zoned for housing, not agriculture.

No Bob Vernon, we Landing residents do not get to hook up to the same lovely sewer pipes as Predator Ridge and Sparkling Hill - of which there are 2 in the road by the way, not just 1 - and interestingly, their connections were cost-shared 1/3 with the City of Vernon. Instead, Landing residents must pay 100% plus interest (no cost-sharing) and we can only hook up to a number of different sewer systems - each with their own Municipal Fee or Latecomer bylaws - many of which require the homeowner to purchase, install and forever maintain your very own Poop Grinder pump so you can connect to a teeny weeny low pressure (not gravity) sewer line…. It does make one wonder why it is so much cheaper to connect to sewer in Coldstream considering it all runs to the same plant in Vernon…
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Ingevan22 wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 5:52 am Last I heard, the developer (Frind) will be contributing to the new $30M+ Tronson Road Greater Vernon Water pump station at Kin Beach that will be required to pump raw water from OK Lake to serve Frind’s irrigation demand.

It is unfortunate that our City’s high quality reclaimed water still cannot legally be used on food crops such as Frind’s grapes as the infrastructure is already in place at the Rise, also with enhanced UV treatment.

As for housing - any construction on Frind’s lands for purposes other than agriculture would require rezoning which is unlikely. Funny enough, some of the grapes at the Rise were required to be removed as those particular lands (173 Vineyard Way) were zoned for housing, not agriculture.

No Bob Vernon, we Landing residents do not get to hook up to the same lovely sewer pipes as Predator Ridge and Sparkling Hill - of which there are 2 in the road by the way, not just 1 - and interestingly, their connections were cost-shared 1/3 with the City of Vernon. Instead, Landing residents must pay 100% plus interest (no cost-sharing) and we can only hook up to a number of different sewer systems - each with their own Municipal Fee or Latecomer bylaws - many of which require the homeowner to purchase, install and forever maintain your very own Poop Grinder pump so you can connect to a teeny weeny low pressure (not gravity) sewer line…. It does make one wonder why it is so much cheaper to connect to sewer in Coldstream considering it all runs to the same plant in Vernon…
If this is true about Frind getting water for irrigation from the lake then why is he so special. The other orchid owners have have water restrictions. Then there is the drought that we all know is here , do we really want to lower the lake even more as we might need water from it in the near future for our homes?
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tabubil wrote: May 4th, 2024, 10:56 am If this is true about Frind getting water for irrigation from the lake then why is he so special. The other orchid owners have have water restrictions. Then there is the drought that we all know is here , do we really want to lower the lake even more as we might need water from it in the near future for our homes?
Frind is so special that he will contribute to the cost of the Kin Beach pumpstation!
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That raw OK lake water can then be used to fill Goose Lake, which is currently filled with treated Duteau drinking water that becomes non-potable the second it enters Goose Lake - so presumably over time, there will be cost-savings overall. From what I recall, agricultural water takes up 55% by volume of all GVW water delivered, and pays about 10% of the overall system costs - GVAC has been trying to move ag rates up to reflect the ever-increasing cost of infrastructure, but I don’t think their rates have increased as fast as our residential rates.

On the City-side of things, it sure would be wonderful to find new customers for the City’s high quality reclaimed water, and it would have made total sense to extend the existing reclaimed + UV system from the Rise over to Frind, but as I mentioned already, we are currently restricted from using reclaimed water on food crops.
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