Waste of real Search and Rescue's Time

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GordonH wrote: It’s impossible to fix stupid people.
common_sense_guy wrote: Wow ,lovely comment how you paint everybody with one brush. Because accidents don't happen in everyday life do they.
We don't have enough victim shaming in life already do we.
My comment is towards idiots who call search and rescue... instead of a tow truck.
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common_sense_guy wrote:
GordonH wrote:It’s impossible to fix stupid people.
Wow ,lovely comment how you paint everybody with one brush. Because accidents don't happen in everyday life do they.
We don't have enough victim shaming in life already do we.
The drift of the Castanet story, and the one on the TV news was that some adventure seekers with apparently inadequate knowledge, poor planning and inadequate equipment decided to embark on a back road trip on icy snowy roads. The poor weather conditions were expected.

Upon becoming stuck, the adventure seekers decided their best course of action was to call up more people, who apparently did not plan the rescue well and did not equip themselves sufficiently, when the first wave of "rescuers" became stuck they call yet another group of rescuers, who also became stuck.

Sounds to me to be the definition of stupid.
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A steep mountain road covered in ice.........what could possibly go wrong
We used to walk out of similar situations, never thought of calling for help, we weren't programmed that way.
But these days it is best to call , and call early.
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Worked in very remote locations for many years. If we got stuck, lost, whatever, there was no SAR and no RCMP to call. If we were lucky we had a sat phone, but in the earlier years it was an SSB back at camp. So what was your backup? Survival gear in a backpack, and thinking about what you were doing. I never had to spend a night curled up under a tree, and part of that was due to watching the weather and being mindful of how quickly things can turn. Some good ol' fashioned luck thrown in there too. I agree that there is a very cavalier attitude towards 'backcountry' touring. If you don't have the right gear, don't go. That includes the vehicle type, accessories, and some basic knowledge of off-road driving. Throw a proper survival pack in the truck, on the back of the skidoo. Waterproof rucksack with change of clothes, food, fuel, first aid and you can make a night easily if need be. I got trucks and skidoos stuck plenty of times, in fact we got skidoos stuck almost every day because we rarely drove on established trails. We figured out how to get them out. A little tip, have someone pull the skis. Cripes, get on the internet and learn how to get out of it before you get into it. Kids will be kids, but there's no reason for them to be ignorant kids, unless we allow it to happen.
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Update :https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/329936 ... ors#329936

REALLY !!!!
They say search and rescue crews attended an average of about 1,500 callouts in previous years, more than the rest of Canada combined.

Seems to point the finger at !!!! Unprepared back country ???? Or maybe I am jumping the gun... and BC has to many places to get lost etc... Not like the landscape of other provinces.... ho hum... maybe a day permit is next in line !
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polelady wrote: Update :https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/329936 ... ors#329936

REALLY !!!!
They say search and rescue crews attended an average of about 1,500 callouts in previous years, more than the rest of Canada combined.

Seems to point the finger at !!!! Unprepared back country ???? Or maybe I am jumping the gun... and BC has to many places to get lost etc... Not like the landscape of other provinces.... ho hum... maybe a day permit is next in line !
You are probably correct on the assumption of being very poorly prepared for the backcountry, with majority.
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GordonH wrote:
GordonH wrote: It’s impossible to fix stupid people.
common_sense_guy wrote: Wow ,lovely comment how you paint everybody with one brush. Because accidents don't happen in everyday life do they.
We don't have enough victim shaming in life already do we.
My comment is towards idiots who call search and rescue... instead of a tow truck.
Well with all due respect I consider a person an idiot when they make a judgment call and they're not there to be in the situation themselves. I don't believe your comment has any value other than to shame other people in a situation you know nothing about other than what you read. We need less of that
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