To the whack jobs entering schools in the name of social protest

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Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 2nd, 2021, 6:03 pm Being a devil's advocate regarding everything is a voice of reason? That didn't work so well in the last election for conservatives. Their supporters were yelling at hospitals and getting into fights in restaurants. Or in stores. At churches. Or now at schools scaring kids. The problem is that this segment of society feels they are very well versed in their knowledge. And the majority is brainwashed. Deconstructing this mentality won't fix anything. Making rationales for it won't either. So ya, whack jobs is correct.
There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.

The statement in regards to conservatives at home not at protests not throwing rocks - doesn't make their peers who vote conservative "crazy" - is too easy of an out. That's almost as pathetic as a "good guy with a gun" reasoning in regards to getting guns off the streets. In the end, the moral responsibility is for conservatives to hold their peers to account - and make sure they don't act like lunatics.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 5:36 pm
Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm

There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.
The statement in regards to conservatives at home not at protests not throwing rocks - doesn't make their peers who vote conservative "crazy" - is too easy of an out. That's almost as pathetic as a "good guy with a gun" reasoning in regards to getting guns off the streets. In the end, the moral responsibility is for conservatives to hold their peers to account - and make sure they don't act like lunatics.
I think you’re confusing PPC supporters with Conservative supporters.

Far right folks chose to leave the Conservative Party because it’s too centrist for their taste. And those of us who are “just right of centre” are glad that they did.

Most Conservative voters are far closer to the centre than left wing partisans like you realize. And many of us have voted for other Parties in the past. We’re not all the far right lunatics people like you keep trying to paint us as being.
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Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 2nd, 2021, 6:03 pm Being a devil's advocate regarding everything is a voice of reason? That didn't work so well in the last election for conservatives. Their supporters were yelling at hospitals and getting into fights in restaurants. Or in stores. At churches. Or now at schools scaring kids. The problem is that this segment of society feels they are very well versed in their knowledge. And the majority is brainwashed. Deconstructing this mentality won't fix anything. Making rationales for it won't either. So ya, whack jobs is correct.
There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.
Definitely see the same PPC supporters on the same corner with their antivax signs. It's not fair to pigeonhole an entire demographic based on a few bad apples, but why does right wing ideology draw all the nutjobs?
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Andrewski wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 5:48 pm
Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm

There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.
Definitely see the same PPC supporters on the same corner with their antivax signs. It's not fair to pigeonhole an entire demographic based on a few bad apples, but why does right wing ideology draw all the nutjobs?
PPC is a different political party than the Conservative Party.
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Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 2nd, 2021, 6:03 pm Being a devil's advocate regarding everything is a voice of reason? That didn't work so well in the last election for conservatives. Their supporters were yelling at hospitals and getting into fights in restaurants. Or in stores. At churches. Or now at schools scaring kids. The problem is that this segment of society feels they are very well versed in their knowledge. And the majority is brainwashed. Deconstructing this mentality won't fix anything. Making rationales for it won't either. So ya, whack jobs is correct.
There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.
I'd also like to ask why would you vote for a government that wouldn't take covid seriously? If you don't deny covid and have your vaccines, you would still vote for a government like the one that's destroying Alberta with ineptitude and a seemingly opposite attitude to your own?
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Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 5:45 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 5:36 pm

The statement in regards to conservatives at home not at protests not throwing rocks - doesn't make their peers who vote conservative "crazy" - is too easy of an out. That's almost as pathetic as a "good guy with a gun" reasoning in regards to getting guns off the streets. In the end, the moral responsibility is for conservatives to hold their peers to account - and make sure they don't act like lunatics.
I think you’re confusing PPC supporters with Conservative supporters.

Far right folks chose to leave the Conservative Party because it’s too centrist for their taste. And those of us who are “just right of centre” are glad that they did.

Most Conservative voters are far closer to the centre than left wing partisans like you realize. And many of us have voted for other Parties in the past. We’re not all the far right lunatics people like you keep trying to paint us as being.
Perhaps you either need to grow a thicker skin and be willing to take the generalizations and evidence that old stock "conservatives" were at events. It's too easy to say there weren't any conservatives there and it was all PPC. If I cried in a corner every time conservatives blamed Antifa, or communism, or socialism tying my beliefs to Russia - I would never be able to enter castanet or go online. At the end of the day, conservatives have to be corporately responsible for their peer's actions and what perceptions come from them.

I think Trudeau is cool because he stuffs all the hate back in conservatives' faces by winning all the time and walking away from useless committee witch hunts with a slap on the wrist. But that doesn't mean he is a cult of personality for me. He is just a great conduit for distracting conservatives. Which makes me smile at their stupidity and entertainment. While liberals and the NDP create great policies and bills in the house on a consistent basis. And that is all that matters to me.
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Andrewski wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 6:00 pm
Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 12:32 pm

There is absolutely NO evidence that the nutters protesting in inappropriate locations were Conservative supporters. So please stop repeating it.

I, as well as many of my friends and relatives (including some indigenous ones by marriage) all voted Conservative, yet non of us participated in ANY of the referenced protests. Neither are we anti vaxxers, or Covid deniers. So please stop claiming that we are.

I know Catherine Mckenna said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. But do you really want to garner Liberal support through the use of lies? If you have any integrity at all, the answer will be no.
I'd also like to ask why would you vote for a government that wouldn't take covid seriously? If you don't deny covid and have your vaccines, you would still vote for a government like the one that's destroying Alberta with ineptitude and a seemingly opposite attitude to your own?
If I lived in Alberta I would have voted NDP, because Kenney is too far right for my taste. But federally I chose to vote Conservative this time, because I liked what O’Toole had to say. He wasn’t spouting far right views, and struck me as being “just right of centre”, and I can live with that.

Most of the folks classified as anti vaxxers and Covid deniers are far right types, who tend to support fringe parties like the Mavericks and the PPC. It’s unlikely they’d vote for a just right of centre guy like O’Toole.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 6:09 pm
Merry wrote: Oct 4th, 2021, 5:45 pm
I think you’re confusing PPC supporters with Conservative supporters.

Far right folks chose to leave the Conservative Party because it’s too centrist for their taste. And those of us who are “just right of centre” are glad that they did.

Most Conservative voters are far closer to the centre than left wing partisans like you realize. And many of us have voted for other Parties in the past. We’re not all the far right lunatics people like you keep trying to paint us as being.
Perhaps you either need to grow a thicker skin and be willing to take the generalizations and evidence that old stock "conservatives" were at events. It's too easy to say there weren't any conservatives there and it was all PPC.
Frankly, I don’t know for sure WHO was at those protests, and neither do you (unless you were there).

I just get mad at folks trying to blame Conservative supporters when in reality they have no clue WHO was there.

My best guess would be that most of them were far right types, and folks like that would most definitely NOT be voting for a Party led by a middle of the road guy like Erin O’Toole. So I wish folks would stop suggesting that’s who those protestors were.
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