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Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 21st, 2015, 7:57 pm
by sobrohusfat
Buddy liked it on facebook and that's where the link said the image was from.

Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 23rd, 2015, 11:43 am
by jamapple
It will be interesting to see what the new number will be for firefighting efforts in the next budget. It's been ridiculously low for so long, now they'll have to raise funds, (from you and I), to pay the astronomical increase in costs. Where they pulled 60 million from, I don't know.

Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 23rd, 2015, 5:53 pm
by trapp
Not going to hypothesize where the fire fighting budget comes from. However, as far back as I can remember it has always been low. There have always been provisions to add to it, we are not going to quit fire control because the budget runs out. No one knows what the weather is going to do, how many lightning or human cause fires there are going to be, where they are going to occur, or how big they are going to be

There is some fire budgeting that is hard and fast and arrived at through professional input, such as preparedness, training, and prevention.

Wonder what say you all if they budget 300 million and it was only 60 million some year. Damned if you do and damned if you don't again.

Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 24th, 2015, 2:13 am
by Glacier
The reason they low ball the budget is to prevent forestry from wasting huge amounts of money at the end of the year in the event of a low fire season. The number is set at a best case sort of level (or worst case if you're making money fighting fire). The thinking from government being that it is far easier to approve more funding than it is to claw back money that wasn’t spent. It could be tempting for forest fire centres to shovel out money as fast as they can in late summer if such a scenario developed. I worked fighting fire at the end of a low fire season, and they had four of us in a vehicle driving around for 13 hours per day doing nothing special but making huge money. The regional fire centre wanted to spend the budget for some reason. I think it was so they would not lose their share of the following year's budget allocation.

Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 24th, 2015, 5:03 pm
by Hassel99
sobrohusfat wrote:BEAUTIFUL:

near LaRonge Sk..jpg

Somewhere near LaRonge Sk.


...livin' the dream!



A whole bunch more from the same photograher.

Image

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Italy.html

Daredevil Italian photographer Antonio Grambone, 46, jumped up close to the blaze to capture the incredible images of forest fires in the National Park of Cilento and Vallo di Diano, in the province of Salerno in Italy
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Cool internet tip for the day. If you use Google Chrome (and you should) if you right click an image you can search google for that image by clicking ... you guessed it "search google for this image" if it can not find the exact image it often finds something very close and it can be funny. Its very good for stuff like figureing out who is in a photograph.

Re: Firefighting Budget

Posted: Jul 26th, 2015, 9:47 am
by jamapple
I get the idea of not getting more the next year if the budget was set too high, and there was a surplus, but on the same token, remember what the government said, "brown is the new green". Brown burns more quickly, and more often than brown, so if that holds true, expect more fires, not less, which equals more in the firefighting budget, not less.
I also get that whatever the number is, they will always pay to fight fires after the money is exhausted, that's a given.
With any/all departments of government, there are ways for the numbers to go either way, so budgeting vs actual should be a little closer than the difference between 30 mil and 300mil.