Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
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- Generalissimo Postalot
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Anyone hear about the % contained, from my view it is hard to tell, looks like it grew quit abit to the south though.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Smoke at the north end of the fire over the last few minutes was being pushed south by wind. Plus the smoke is now dropping down to the lake making it hard to see.
At the bottom of the smoke in the middle they were using an old road earlier for access, had 3 pickups there but now the fire has spread down past the road.
Not Bob:
Last updated: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Size: 430.0 hectares (estimated)
Status: Active
• 0% contained
This morning, fire activity steadily increased, peaking in the early afternoon with an active surface and crown fire. While fire activity experienced a slight reprieve later in the day, a shift in winds pushed fire activity downslope in the early evening. Structural protection firefighters along with BC Wildfire Service crews are monitoring this area and will remain on site overnight to protect nearby values. The Evacuation Order, issued by the Central Okanagan Regional District, is still in effect. This Order is affecting 70 properties in the area. More information is available at: http://www.cordemergency.ca
At the bottom of the smoke in the middle they were using an old road earlier for access, had 3 pickups there but now the fire has spread down past the road.
Not Bob:
Last updated: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Size: 430.0 hectares (estimated)
Status: Active
• 0% contained
This morning, fire activity steadily increased, peaking in the early afternoon with an active surface and crown fire. While fire activity experienced a slight reprieve later in the day, a shift in winds pushed fire activity downslope in the early evening. Structural protection firefighters along with BC Wildfire Service crews are monitoring this area and will remain on site overnight to protect nearby values. The Evacuation Order, issued by the Central Okanagan Regional District, is still in effect. This Order is affecting 70 properties in the area. More information is available at: http://www.cordemergency.ca
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- Generalissimo Postalot
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Slightly stronger winds from the north pushing the smoke south.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
You will not see heli action when fixed wing aircraft are working or anticipated in the short term. Heli action is used as support for ground crews or to hold established guards or cool down spots where the crews are progressing fire guards. It is money wasted to just dump on the leading edge where there can be no follow up of crews or crews would be put in danger working there. Water is a short term retardant and dries up very quickly. No one tool is an end all in controlling a large fire in these condition. There are goals and objectives set daily in accordance with anticipated fire behavior and crew safety. Resources are used as necessary to achieve those goals and objectives.
With the number of fires in the south half of the province there are a limited number of rotary wing aircraft available. It is imperative to use some of those resources to maintain initial attack capabilities for new fires and perhaps reassign some to keep new starts in check as quick as possible.
With the number of fires in the south half of the province there are a limited number of rotary wing aircraft available. It is imperative to use some of those resources to maintain initial attack capabilities for new fires and perhaps reassign some to keep new starts in check as quick as possible.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
There's pyrocumulus clouds forming above the fire which is a really obvious sign of aggressive fire activity.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Does anyone else see a lot of smoke below rose valley?
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
I think it's blowing in from shelter cove. The wind has shifted south.Quailize wrote:Does anyone else see a lot of smoke below rose valley?
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Well put, and not to belabour the point, but water isn't even an effective short term retardant - unless you can keep pumping it on, like we do with the SPU's. Still it is a very good suppressant, and when utilized correctly, it creates one the best and most effective retardants known to man.trapp wrote:You will not see heli action when fixed wing aircraft are working or anticipated in the short term. Heli action is used as support for ground crews or to hold established guards or cool down spots where the crews are progressing fire guards. It is money wasted to just dump on the leading edge where there can be no follow up of crews or crews would be put in danger working there. Water is a short term retardant and dries up very quickly. No one tool is an end all in controlling a large fire in these condition. There are goals and objectives set daily in accordance with anticipated fire behavior and crew safety. Resources are used as necessary to achieve those goals and objectives.
With the number of fires in the south half of the province there are a limited number of rotary wing aircraft available. It is imperative to use some of those resources to maintain initial attack capabilities for new fires and perhaps reassign some to keep new starts in check as quick as possible.
Cold black.
That's the same condition we attempt to emulate with the long term retardants. The "red stuff" creates a chemical reaction with the surface layer of the fuel, causing it to gas off, which in turn, inhibits pyrolysis ( the thermochemical decomposition of organic material). No pyrolysis - no flames.
"No one tool is an end all in controlling a large fire in these conditions." - exactly.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
According to forestry channel talk theres 2 maybe 3 helis heading to 391 (this fire) to start bucketing.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Forestry official at 391 is setting up the other ones to start bucketing and then he is leaving to check out smoke reported by RCMP around Black Knight mountain.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Nothing was found around black Knight Mountain.
Helis are bucketing the south flank of the fire, dropping on open flames middle of the mountain and along the south edge of the smoke column.
Helis are bucketing the south flank of the fire, dropping on open flames middle of the mountain and along the south edge of the smoke column.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Forestry official at fire 391 has requested that the skimmers come to "cool the smoke column" on the south flank. Bucketing on same area to continue until they arrive.
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Wind:
NNW 17 gust 30 km/h
Not great. Pushing south?
NNW 17 gust 30 km/h
Not great. Pushing south?
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- Generalissimo Postalot
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Re: Westside Road about 5k N of Lk Okanagan Resort
Yup, not a strong north wind but it is still pushing the smoke south. Too sunny and smokey to get a pic.tsayta wrote:Wind:
NNW 17 gust 30 km/h
Not great. Pushing south?