Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby SouthernOkanagan » Dec 15th, 2018, 2:07 am

People STILL drink and drive?
With all the media attention and bad stigma around it, it's a wonder why there are still people out there who STILL do it!

I think it should work on a shaming system, just like in some U.S. cities when "Johns" get caught propositioning Prostitutes when the authorities post their names and or photos in the media or on a website.

Considering the amount of people drunk driving kills every year and out of all those people the amount of children it hurts or kills and the fact that people STILL aren't GETTING IT, after all these years of drunk driving campaigns, horrible news stories of families ripped apart and the heartache it causes everyone, it's just a thought, and probably a good one at that.
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby Tony » Dec 15th, 2018, 6:11 am

Shaming would be a good way to deal with it. Anyone caught drinking or smoking pot and driving, gets to have their picture and name posted on every social media outlet, every news outlet and maybe a wall somewhere. It could have a caption of "Not only do I not care about my own life, but I don't give a **** about anybody else either, so I chose to drink and drive".
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby OllyV » Dec 15th, 2018, 9:04 am

Tony wrote:Shaming would be a good way to deal with it. Anyone caught drinking or smoking pot and driving, gets to have their picture and name posted on every social media outlet, every news outlet and maybe a wall somewhere. It could have a caption of "Not only do I not care about my own life, but I don't give a **** about anybody else either, so I chose to drink and drive".


Does this apply to all life threatening driving infractions?
Speeding, distracted driving, unsafe vehicles (tires etc.)?

I would hazard a guess that distracted driving and speeding cause more accidents than stoned drivers.

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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby twobits » Dec 15th, 2018, 6:55 pm

OllyV wrote:Does this apply to all life threatening driving infractions?
Speeding, distracted driving, unsafe vehicles (tires etc.)?

I would hazard a guess that distracted driving and speeding cause more accidents than stoned drivers.


I was going to add legal prescriptions, dogs in lap, and a bacon double cheeseburger in one hand and a Timmies Coffee in the other.
The sad irony most people don't want to acknowledge, and I most definitely do not say this in defense of alcohol impaired driving, is that the vast majority of impaired drivers on the road are actually impaired by doctor prescribed pain killers and OTC meds like cold medicines and codeine containing products like Tylenol 1"s.
If John Law could test for antidepressants, pain meds, "happy pills", could go on forever here if I went thru the Merck Manual.....main st would be empty and so would the Mall prking lots.
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby OllyV » Dec 16th, 2018, 11:58 am

twobits wrote:The sad irony most people don't want to acknowledge, and I most definitely do not say this in defense of alcohol impaired driving, is that the vast majority of impaired drivers on the road are actually impaired by doctor prescribed pain killers and OTC meds like cold medicines and codeine containing products like Tylenol 1"s.


That is a very valid point and a bit of a sobering (pardon the pun) reality...
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby RupertBear » Dec 16th, 2018, 5:03 pm

It does present a bit of a slippery slope here. If a news outlet is going to publicize the names of those charged with drinking and driving, they have a moral obligation to publicize the outcome of th3 trial as well, whether guilty or not guilty. Sadly, most news outlets simply don’t have enough staff to follow up on all of these trials.

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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby fluffy » Dec 17th, 2018, 11:20 am

RupertBear wrote:It does present a bit of a slippery slope here. If a news outlet is going to publicize the names of those charged with drinking and driving, they have a moral obligation to publicize the outcome of th3 trial as well, whether guilty or not guilty. Sadly, most news outlets simply don’t have enough staff to follow up on all of these trials.


Technically, under the premise of “innocent until proven guilty”, wouldn’t media outlets be obliged to wait until after conviction to publish names?
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby RandyDandy » Dec 17th, 2018, 11:50 am

2 bits....think you have to take Tylenol 3 to get codeine but your points are well placed. Smoking tobacco while driving is also a distraction as is really loud music but no one talks about that. *removed*
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby twobits » Dec 17th, 2018, 5:44 pm

RandyDandy wrote:2 bits....think you have to take Tylenol 3 to get codeine but your points are well placed. Smoking tobacco while driving is also a distraction as is really loud music but no one talks about that. *removed*


Nope, Tylenol 1's have codeine. They are just not on the shelf in the store. Kept behind the counter due to theft. Just ask the pharmacist and they will sell it to anyone without a prescription. 8 mg of codeine in each pill and any Pharma will sell you a bottle of 200 basically saccharine sized pills. Legally and cheap. A responsible pharmacist would deny the sale of two bottles but there is nothing stopping a visit to the next pharmacy two blocks away.
A T3 has 30 mg of codeine. Do the math.
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Re: The "12 drunks off the road" news story...

Postby SouthernOkanagan » Jan 7th, 2019, 10:11 pm

Does this apply to all life threatening driving infractions?
Speeding, distracted driving, unsafe vehicles (tires etc.)?

I would hazard a guess that distracted driving and speeding cause more accidents than stoned drivers.



No, not all life threatening infractions, just drunk and impaired driving.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here! ;)

You can call speeding, distracted driving and mechanical problems a mistake or oversight, I don't think anyone should or can call drunk driving a mistake or an oversight, not anymore with all the news and talk about it out there.
It's a clear and selfish action to drink to the point of having your functions impaired then, THEN, getting behind the wheel and driving, you can't call that a mistake or a "duhhh, brain fart" moment, it's selfish, stupid, and criminal, period!

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