Dick Cannings worried about electoral boundaries

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The Green Barbarian wrote: May 8th, 2023, 8:26 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: May 8th, 2023, 8:22 am And yet, Dick blindly votes for the Liberal budget that misses the mark in so many areas that he says are crucial for Canadians.

How can he support what he claims is such a massive failure for workers and all Canadians? It's completely illogical. A man of character and integrity would vote against what he's claiming is bad for Canadians!

The people who won't be in his electoral district should count their blessings after such a greasy performance by Dick.

Dick, you're a fraud and a sham, resign immediately!


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Resign Dick - you are a terrible human being who is in the wrong job at the wrong time.
I don't believe that Richard Cannings is YOUR MP, so why would you even care (other than to stir up contraversy on a thread that doesn't affect you). Not all NDP are bad people just like not all Conservatives are bad people; lumping everyone into the same pot is just plain wrong.
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There's not much integrity in any MP ignoring constituents on the basis of ideological differences.

IMO there's no integrity in collecting pay for doing the job of MP while not responding when any of their constituents send invitations and questions and share their concerns, including on the basis of how politely these were stated. Any politician worth their pay can have their staff respond appropriately to those as well.

What we're hearing from too many people on too many topics is that they've received no response at all. That's unacceptable, full stop.

I'd thought far better of Cannings before he became an MP and showed this tendency to respond when concerns align with his own - or his party's - areas of interest.
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XT225 wrote: May 8th, 2023, 10:35 am I don't believe that Richard Cannings is YOUR MP
What if that person has business interests in the riding in question? And how do you know where the poster lives?

And we should all be concerned with all the MP's in the House, as they are there to make decisions on our behalf. If we have a lame Dick who won't stand up, when called on to perform for us, then by all rights we should be calling him/her out for their lack of abilities.
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rustled wrote: May 8th, 2023, 12:48 pm There's not much integrity in any MP ignoring constituents on the basis of ideological differences.

IMO there's no integrity in collecting pay for doing the job of MP while not responding when any of their constituents send invitations and questions and share their concerns, including on the basis of how politely these were stated. Any politician worth their pay can have their staff respond appropriately to those as well.

What we're hearing from too many people on too many topics is that they've received no response at all. That's unacceptable, full stop.

I'd thought far better of Cannings before he became an MP and showed this tendency to respond when concerns align with his own - or his party's - areas of interest.
To your last point I too "thought far better" and now realize it was a total mistake to vote for him ... everyone is entitled to their own reasons but it is my belief he is a "partocrat" and is, like they are in communist countries, more devoted to the ideology of "partocracy" than democracy ... he has failed to do his job between elections which is where and when the real work in a democracy is done ... dick deserves every criticism he is receiving and with each passing day of not resigning due to not doing his public service duty adds even more to his dismal, disappointing record and failure to represent the public that he asked to serve ... shame on him.
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XT225 wrote: May 8th, 2023, 10:35 am

I don't believe that Richard Cannings is YOUR MP, so why would you even care
Because the NDP is a disease. That's why.
Not all NDP are bad people
But they sure are dumb. And that's the problem - they don't think, and just "do", causing so much pain and suffering along the way.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: May 8th, 2023, 9:40 pm
XT225 wrote: May 8th, 2023, 10:35 am

I don't believe that Richard Cannings is YOUR MP, so why would you even care
Because the NDP is a disease. That's why.
Not all NDP are bad people
But they sure are dumb. And that's the problem - they don't think, and just "do", causing so much pain and suffering along the way.
Thank you for confirming what we suspected...that Richard Cannings is NOT your MP. Anyone who "generalizes" that any group of people are bad is not worth the space on this forum. Just like we wouldn't condem all Conservatives as being bad or a disease; only SOME of them are. Richard Cannings and his party have brought many benefits to Canada in general; and anyone who has an open mind will know that.
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XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:59 am
The Green Barbarian wrote: May 8th, 2023, 9:40 pm

Because the NDP is a disease. That's why.



But they sure are dumb. And that's the problem - they don't think, and just "do", causing so much pain and suffering along the way.
Thank you for confirming what we suspected...that Richard Cannings is NOT your MP. Anyone who "generalizes" that any group of people are bad is not worth the space on this forum. Just like we wouldn't condem all Conservatives as being bad or a disease; only SOME of them are. Richard Cannings and his party have brought many benefits to Canada in general; and anyone who has an open mind will know that.
While this might be a good opportunity to share some of the benefits we could credit Cannings with having achieved for us during his time as MP, the benefits he may have brought us do NOT excuse his refusal to engage with constituents who don't support his agenda on, for example, the issue of creating a national park in the South Okanagan.

I'd suggest anyone who knows him personally and wants him to be seen in a better light would be better served suggesting to him that he have his staff go through his inbox and voice messages, and start reaching out to the people he has been ignoring.
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XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:59 am
Thank you for confirming what we suspected...that Richard Cannings is NOT your MP.
The MP's in the Valley affect everyone. When an MP doesn't do their job, it affects everyone in that region, as then our voice in Ottawa is lost. Picking and choosing who you respond to based on political bias is a sign of tremendous weakness, and demonstrates that said MP is not qualified for the job. Resign Dick, and let the adults take over.
Anyone who "generalizes" that any group of people are bad is not worth the space on this forum.
It wasn't "bad", it was "stupid". Like really really dumb. I have yet to ever meet a smart NDP person. If you say they are out there, where are they?
Richard Cannings and his party have brought many benefits to Canada in general;
Nope. Tommy Douglas did, sure, but he would weep if he were alive today at just how disgusting and evil his party has become.
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rustled wrote: May 9th, 2023, 9:12 am

I'd suggest anyone who knows him personally and wants him to be seen in a better light would be better served suggesting to him that he have his staff go through his inbox and voice messages, and start reaching out to the people he has been ignoring.
Yup. Though that would require "doing work", and we know that work is just something Dick and his coterie of NDP losers are highly averse to.
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I still believe its HOW you try to contact people (polite manner or insulting way) that makes the difference. You cannot expect any response from ANYone if you are insulting or bullying in your request. Politeness wins out every time. I wouldn't expect Richard Cannings or any other MP to get back to me if I didn't ask nicely. By generalizing that all NDP (or any other party) is just Dumb, shows exactly how you would have behaved in a request from the MP. :up:
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XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:22 am I still believe its HOW you try to contact people (polite manner or insulting way) that makes the difference. You cannot expect any response from ANYone if you are insulting or bullying in your request.
The assumption everyone Cannings hasn't responded to was bullying or insulting has already been offered up as an excuse to let Cannings off the hook by blaming the constituents.

While I've no doubt some of the people he stopped responding to were behaving badly, we've no reason to assume everyone was - nor is there ANY reason his staff couldn't respond with "While Mr. Cannings understands constituents are sometimes frustrated enough to use that sort of language, please reframe your question and try again. Further inquiries using the same language will not receive a response." Still smacks of hubris and avoiding the tougher part of the job, but at least it's something.
XT225 wrote: Politeness wins out every time. I wouldn't expect Richard Cannings or any other MP to get back to me if I didn't ask nicely.
I would. He is paid to get back to people - it's part of his job. The tough part of the job. Some politicians are good at engaging with people who don't think like they do. Cannings obviously doesn't have that skill and shouldn't have applied for a job that requires it.
XT225 wrote:By generalizing that all NDP (or any other party) is just Dumb, shows exactly how you would have behaved in a request from the MP. :up:
Generalizing that all of the people who didn't receive a response were insulting or bullying is wrong, too. It shows a lack of interest in holding an MP accountable because he's a nice guy and we like him.

He's a nice guy, and we like him, but he was NOT cut out for the job we're paying him to do. He likely knew that during his first term and ran again anyway, which IMO shows a lack of integrity.
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XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:22 am I still believe its HOW you try to contact people (polite manner or insulting way) that makes the difference. You cannot expect any response from ANYone if you are insulting or bullying in your request.
And you have no proof that anyone has been insulting or bullying to dumb Dickie. This is just apologist twaddle to apologize for horrible behavior of a lazy MP, who is just milking this job for the pension apparently.
By generalizing that all NDP (or any other party) is just Dumb,
I repeat - have you ever met anyone in the NDP who is smart? I have yet to have this experience.
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XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:22 am Politeness wins out every time. I wouldn't expect Richard Cannings or any other MP to get back to me if I didn't ask nicely.
rustled wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:41 amI would. He is paid to get back to people - it's part of his job.
I disagree. Mr.Cannings is well within his rights to turn away from boorish and socially unacceptable behavior. To say he is obliged to engage with such people is to condone that sort of behavior, and that is not the path to reducing the divisive climate that surrounds politics these days.
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fluffy wrote: May 10th, 2023, 6:26 am
XT225 wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:22 am Politeness wins out every time. I wouldn't expect Richard Cannings or any other MP to get back to me if I didn't ask nicely.
rustled wrote: May 9th, 2023, 11:41 amI would. He is paid to get back to people - it's part of his job.
I disagree. Mr.Cannings is well within his rights to turn away from boorish and socially unacceptable behavior. To say he is obliged to engage with such people is to condone that sort of behavior, and that is not the path to reducing the divisive climate that surrounds politics these days.
I made quite clear how Cannings could have his staff get back to any of the people who actually did approach him with boorish and unacceptable behaviour.

He IS paid to respond to ALL of his constituents, and there's no excuse for his office not responding when one of his constituents reaches out.

He is NOT being paid to reform his constituents' manners.

We would apply the same standards we would to any highly paid CEO. Completely ignoring the concerns of those he's paid to engage with who don't speak nicely enough is shirking. Full stop.
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rustled wrote: May 10th, 2023, 7:13 am I made quite clear how Cannings could have his staff get back to any of the people who actually did approach him with boorish and unacceptable behaviour.

He IS paid to respond to ALL of his constituents, and there's no excuse for his office not responding when one of his constituents reaches out.
That's a possible option yes, but it does more or less sanction socially unacceptable behavior. If more of our elected officials took the same approach as Mr. Cannings then it might just start to sink in with some people that aggressive, in-your-face politics is taking us down a dark path. Instead we have politicians who encourage divisive behavior by courting the ill-mannered and intolerant. As I have made it clear myself, the bulk of those condemning Mr. Cannings in this thread are those same discourteous, disrespectful types. In my opinion, they are the problem, not Richard Cannings.
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