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fluffy wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 5:40 am
twobits wrote: Jun 9th, 2023, 8:22 pmMost people who read your post will just pass on this because they are not even engaged enough in political issues to even understand how Government debt impacts their lives and more importantly, their children and grandchildren.
Or perhaps they will pass because the post contains no links or reference to what he's actually talking about ? Seriously, when 99% percent of of a poster's comments are just name calling and whining, I'm supposed to go digging for relevance where it has rarely existed before ?
Do you have a link (from your NDP masters, dictated by Justin Trudeau) to refute the level of debt added to each family because of the $60,000,000,000 of inflationary deficits Dick just supported?

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So, no direct link to Mr. Cannings then, other than in your imagination. Typical.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 7:32 am
fluffy wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 5:40 am

Or perhaps they will pass because the post contains no links or reference to what he's actually talking about ? Seriously, when 99% percent of of a poster's comments are just name calling and whining, I'm supposed to go digging for relevance where it has rarely existed before ?
Do you have a link (from your NDP masters, dictated by Justin Trudeau) to refute the level of debt added to each family because of the $60,000,000,000 of inflationary deficits Dick just supported?

https://globalnews.ca/video/9585579/fed ... -canadians
Surely you're not expecting people here to hold Cannings responsible for the direct and indirect consequences of ANYthing he votes for!

He has made plain he is not here to champion what's in our best interest when it doesn't align with what's best for the NDP. And that's perfectly fine with anyone who thinks (despite all evidence to the contrary) the NDP might someday act in our best interests, and not the party's.
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To cover up just how disappointed he is in losing all his supporters in the west Kootenays ... Dick sputtered in parliament last week ...

https://openparliament.ca/debates/2023/ ... annings-1/
Mr. Speaker, I just came from a meeting with the company that invented and
makes the buckets that helicopters use to fight forest fires around the
world. Armed forces around the world use these buckets to fight forest fires
in their countries, and the Royal Canadian Air Force is one of the few that
does not.

In the face of a fire season like this, would it not be a good idea to have
a dedicated air squadron of bombers and helicopters to help provinces across
this country, or at the very least train and equip the air force with Bambi
buckets, to really hit these fires hard and early so they do not explode
into the catastrophic situations we have seen so much over the last weeks?
While sputtering and hoping to spend more of our money on his climate cult activities this was reported ...
As wildfires burn across the country, the Trudeau government is once again jumping at the opportunity to use a tragedy to advance their political agenda. Despite the fact that provincial governments have not concluded why these wildfires were started, the federal government along with the activist legacy media already know the culprit – it’s the invisible gods of climate change, of course.

The reality is climate change has nothing to do with it. In Canada, wildfires have been decreasing since 1990. Further, numerous wildfires in Canada this year alone have already been determined to be the cause of humans intentionally setting forests ablaze.

Arson charges are coming thick and fast for these people across the country. In Quebec, the provincial police are investigating arson as the cause of the Quebec wildfires which have been the focus of most of the world’s media. All of a sudden, things look awfully similar to how they looked back in 2021. Masks are being recommended. School boards are shutting down outdoor extracurriculars and Premiers are delivering daily press conferences to give the media their marching orders.
https://tnc.news/2023/06/08/ratiod-wildfires/

Dick is in Trudeau's pocket and 'owes' him ... trudeau owns jugmeet too ...
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rustled wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 9:42 amHe has made plain he is not here to champion what's in our best interest when it doesn't align with what's best for the NDP.
So an NDP MP should champion Conservative policy ? You'll get your say come the next election. It's called "democracy".
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fluffy wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 5:56 am
rustled wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 9:42 amHe has made plain he is not here to champion what's in our best interest when it doesn't align with what's best for the NDP.
So an NDP MP should champion Conservative policy ? You'll get your say come the next election. It's called "democracy".
Dick champions trudeau's policies ... given that he acts in politically promiscuous ways and sells himself out to trudeau why wouldn't he do the same for conservative polices?

Democracy is having a say between elections and dick has failed spectacularly on that front ... his article on electoral boundaries in Castanet (paid for by taxpayers) is just one of many examples of how he is disingenuous when it comes to democratic norms and principles. Parliament is out in a week or so and dick should have public meetings set up where he can consult with the citizens he is supposed to serve and find out what it is they want rather than him acting like a tin-pot dictator between elections ...
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A Concerned Citizen wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 6:09 amDick champions trudeau's policies...
A lot of people can't (or won't) see how the confidence-and-supply agreement between the NDP and the Libs has worked to the benefit of the NDP. There are more than a few NDP led policies that have seen the light of day that wouldn't have if the NDP hadn't had some way of keeping the Liberals' feet to the fire so to speak. The Dental Care plan is something that never would have happened under the Liberals alone, likewise with cheap daycare. These are programs with a direct and positive benefit for low income earners, a group that the Liberals and especially the Conservatives are more than willing to turn their backs on. The Conservatives could something to learn from this, but they do take the whole "opposition" thing too seriously.

Jeez, watching Trudeau and Poilievre trade juvenile insults across the House of Commons this past week was, and should be, an embarrassment to all Canadians.
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fluffy wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 7:09 am
A Concerned Citizen wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 6:09 amDick champions trudeau's policies...
A lot of people can't (or won't) see how the confidence-and-supply agreement between the NDP and the Libs has worked to the benefit of the NDP. There are more than a few NDP led policies that have seen the light of day that wouldn't have if the NDP hadn't had some way of keeping the Liberals' feet to the fire so to speak. The Dental Care plan is something that never would have happened under the Liberals alone, likewise with cheap daycare. These are programs with a direct and positive benefit for low income earners, a group that the Liberals and especially the Conservatives are more than willing to turn their backs on. The Conservatives could something to learn from this, but they do take the whole "opposition" thing too seriously.

Jeez, watching Trudeau and Poilievre trade juvenile insults across the House of Commons this past week was, and should be, an embarrassment to all Canadians.
Dick's political promiscuity is characteristic of a transient relationship and is antithetical to democratic norms and principles that promotes public participation ... remember last March when he totally avoided the calls of people that would have given him an excellent opportunity to hear from constituents on electoral boundaries and yet he hid behind the veil of a private party (like all partocrats do) ...

Dick fails at promoting public participation which holds that those who are affected by a decision have a right to be involved in the decision-making process and the public's contribution will influence the decision ...
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fluffy wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 7:09 am A lot of people can't (or won't) see how the confidence-and-supply agreement between the NDP and the Libs has worked to the benefit of the NDP. There are more than a few NDP led policies that have seen the light of day that wouldn't have if the NDP hadn't had some way of keeping the Liberals' feet to the fire so to speak.
I'd be thinking this would be how proportional representation government would function. End result is increased taxes to appease minority parties to support majority parties. Nordic countries appear to have run this course.

If Dick was concerned about the change of electoral boundaries in the Kootenays, he is concerned because many of the NDP supporters reside there. Penticton area has been Conservative many times. Stockwell Day, Fred King...
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seewood wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 8:02 amIf Dick was concerned about the change of electoral boundaries in the Kootenays, he is concerned because many of the NDP supporters reside there.
That's the narrative being pushed by the right wing rah-rah chorus but it actually quite removed from the truth. Electoral boundaries are adjusted periodically to keep the number of people in each riding roughly the same. Sometimes changes made to keep the numbers in line result in arbitrarily placing people in ridings where their MP is at significant distance from them, and where the issues that face them may not be in line with their actual location. This is what Mr. Cannings is trying to address in the West Kootenays. Objections to the most recent draft of proposed changes are being heard until the end of June.
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fluffy wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 9:43 am
seewood wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 8:02 amIf Dick was concerned about the change of electoral boundaries in the Kootenays, he is concerned because many of the NDP supporters reside there.
That's the narrative being pushed by the right wing rah-rah chorus but it actually quite removed from the truth. Electoral boundaries are adjusted periodically to keep the number of people in each riding roughly the same. Sometimes changes made to keep the numbers in line result in arbitrarily placing people in ridings where their MP is at significant distance from them, and where the issues that face them may not be in line with their actual location. This is what Mr. Cannings is trying to address in the West Kootenays. Objections to the most recent draft of proposed changes are being heard until the end of June.
If boundaries are adjusted periodically to keep the number of people in each riding roughly the same, then why is dick trying to interfere in the establishment of electoral boundary ... word on the street is he is livid that he is losing a significant portion of his 'base' ...

Regardless he should keep his nose out of the adjustment because it reeks, as in smells to high heaven, like a rotting fish ...
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A Concerned Citizen wrote: Jun 11th, 2023, 11:20 amIf boundaries are adjusted periodically to keep the number of people in each riding roughly the same, then why is dick trying to interfere in the establishment of electoral boundary
At this stage of the process there is no more opportunity for direct public input. Objections must be made in writing by MPs.

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?s ... dex&lang=e
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fluffy wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 8:39 am So, no direct link to Mr. Cannings then, other than in your imagination. Typical.
How did Dick vote on his leader's (Justin's) budget?

Just walk down the hall from your office and ask him, no need for a link, and let us know, m'kay?
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fluffy wrote: Jun 10th, 2023, 5:40 am

Or perhaps they will pass because the post contains no links or reference to what he's actually talking about ?
I knew exactly what the poster was referring to. Are you perhaps one of the people I was referring to that are not engaged enough in their own governance to understand the reference?
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I'm wondering where the $4200 figure came from. Can you tell me ?
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