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there's another big fire near Leavenworth, Wa. :(

http://www.king5.com/news/local/wildfir ... /309701452
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So that's 2 fires in the okanagan today and one in Princeton. Any bets all of them are human caused?
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The cause of the Kokanee Road fire has been determined.

Vernon deputy fire chief Lawrie Skolrood said the fire was caused by a downed power line.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#174499
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The rest of the week and the weekend should put a real damper on the fire season, at least for anything above rank 2, according to what I see of Castanet weather:

http://www.castanet.net/weather/Kelowna

And Environment Canada projects this moist weather right into Monday and according to the 14 day trend unsettled well into September:

https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-48_metric_e.html

Had we have had the build up this year like the last few years some of the fires we had in August could have been very serious.

There has not really been much of a fire season in September for a few years now. Back in the past I have worked on and supervised some very large and aggressive fires well into September.
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Trapp, do you recall any major fires that started in September?
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tsayta wrote:Trapp, do you recall any major fires that started in September?


I do recall several in the Cariboo back in the 70's up to probably 200 hectors (500 acres). Back then fires were named, not numbered. Any of the September ones in the Okanagan in more recent years mostly started end of August burning well into September.
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I guess it's possible that with climate change, September is now August. October is now September
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Peachland in 2012 was a high rank fire in September. Bear creek fire in September 2011. The 2003 fire carried on into September. Those 3 years had very dry August's followed by warm and dry weather in September. Like trapp said, if we get the rain that's forecasted over the next week then things should be fine for the rest of the year. Much cooler night temperatures and more moisture in the morning this time of year.
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tsayta wrote:I guess it's possible that with climate change, September is now August. October is now September


It's very rare but the western fire season can continue on for months if the conditions allow it. Look up the Spokane fires of 1991, destroyed 100 homes on October 16th.
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tsayta wrote:I guess it's possible that with climate change, September is now August. October is now September

Interesting that you should mention that. In our area the summer climate has shifted. September used to be like May, but now it's more like June.

As for September fires, I can find historical data online as far back as 2002. Largest on record in BC (starting after August):

Size (ha)…..Year…..Fire Centre.........Name..............................................Lat….Long….Distance from Kelowna (km)
24852…..2012…..Prince George.......White Spruce Creek................................59….-120.6….1034
3600…..2013…..Northwest...........N shore at E end of Eutsuk Lk.....................53.3….-126.2….601
2499…..2012…..Prince George.......Beckman Creek.....................................58.1….-124….977
2443…..2012…..Prince George.......Muskwa River near Little Sisters Mountain.........57.9….-123.9….947
595…..2009…..Kamloops............Scotty Creek......................................51….-121.2….180
510…..2006…..Cariboo.............Lanezi Lake.......................................53.1….-121….383
505…..2003…..South East..........Hamil Creek.......................................50.2….-116.9….210
500…..2006…..Cariboo.............West of East Arm of Quesnel Lake..................52.6….-120.7….328
431…..2012…..South East..........Mt. Glen..........................................49.5….-118.9….60
405…..2009…..Cariboo.............4km N of Gaspard Lake.............................51.5….-122.8….296
400…..2003…..South East..........Staubert Lk.......................................50.7….-117.6….184
325…..2006…..Cariboo.............5m up the Niagra River............................52.7….-120.5….342
280…..2008…..Cariboo.............South side of Mt Thom. Big Creek Provincial Park..51.3….-123.2….303
240…..2010…..Cariboo.............6 km south of Canoe Creek IR......................51.4….-122.1….250
210…..2011…..Kamloops............Chopaka...........................................49….-119.7….79
206…..2005…..Coastal.............Burns Bog.........................................49.1….-122.9….245
200…..2006…..Kamloops............Ferry Creek.......................................50….-118.8….75
200…..2006…..Cariboo.............Suey Mt...........................................52.5….-120.8….317
200…..2012…..Kamloops............Trepanier Exit , HWY 97C..........................49.8….-119.7….12
191…..2007…..South East..........Daer Cr Mt Assiniboine Prov Park..................50.9….-115.9….298
182…..2014…..Kamloops............Princeton-Summerland Road.........................49.5….-120.5….61
166…..2012…..Prince George.......Kahntah River.....................................58.2….-120.8….943
160…..2006…..Prince George.......Pocketknife Creek.................................57.5….-123.1….895
154…..2003…..Kamloops............Vigue South.......................................50.6….-118.3….139
130…..2009…..South East..........Head Waters Tea Creek.............................50.5….-116.7….227
129…..2012…..Cariboo.............West of Anahim's Meadow IR........................52.1….-123.3….366
120…..2010…..Prince George.......Jackfish Lake.....................................56.1….-121.3….716
116…..2008…..Coastal.............Bishop River......................................51….-124.3….356
111…..2013…..Northwest...........Atlin Provincial Park.............................59.2….-134….1396
110…..2003…..Prince George.......Chlotapecta Creek.................................58.5….-124.1….1017
100…..2003…..Prince George.......Richards Creek....................................57.6….-123.7….915
92…..2006…..Cariboo.............West of Isaac Lake, Huckey Creek Headwaters.......53.2….-121….401
92…..2010…..Prince George.......Osborne...........................................56.6….-120.4….763
87…..2006…..Prince George.......Peace Arm.........................................56….-123.3….740
80…..2003…..Prince George.......8km Lone Prairie Road.............................55.6….-121.5….665
80…..2003…..Kamloops............Laag Mtn..........................................50.6….-118.2….141
80…..2005…..Kamloops............Sihlis Road.......................................50.3….-118.6….104
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