BC Election issues

[The Green Barbarian]

There's a story on the CBC news site today about paid online 'influencers'. It appears there are a few BC Liberal ones on this thread. .

I realize this may blow your mind, but some of us see the NDP for what it really is, and are sickened by it. If you guys could come up with a decent platform, and elect a leader who wasn't a bonehead once in awhile, you'd get more support. I am just spit-balling here of course.

[krocky]

100% right on. The NDP is a disease.

That will destroy the flesh eating bacteria known as the BC Liberal Party.. Some diseases are good for things like that, some even eat scum and mold and make things useful again..

[BeingHuman]

The BC Liberals are KILLING BC's Forest Industry. Under this BC Liberal Government, B.C. exported more raw logs between 2013 and 2016 than in any other 4-year period in history. Our province has exported nearly 26 million cubic metres of whole log wood worth an estimated $3 billion since 2013.

The BC Liberal's policy on raw log exports is KILLING BC JOBS!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4000765

Hey Gone-Fishing, when I post "facts and truths", I include links to credible sources that support those facts and truths. You should try it sometime, it adds something called "credibility" to your comments!

[krocky]

There's a story on the CBC news site today about paid online 'influencers'. It appears there are a few BC Liberal ones on this thread. .

While I'll be damned, Christy really did create a few jobs, go figure...!!!

[BeingHuman]

Did you know the B.C. Liberal Government has given away so much power to timber companies that district forest managers no longer have the authority to stop suspect harvesting practices in the public good? Yup this was the findings of the Forest Practices Board.

Read more about how the AWOL BC Liberal Government gave complete control of our Provincial Forest Resources over to the Major International Timber Corporations here:

http://www.vancouversun.com/forestry+wa ... story.html

[The Green Barbarian]

The BC Liberals are KILLING BC's Forest Industry.

no, they're not. Desperation is stinky cologne, and it's obvious the NDP supporters here are really starting to reek.

[The Green Barbarian]

Did you know the B.C. Liberal Government has given away so much power to timber companies

I didn't know this, because it isn't true.

[Urbane]

• There's a story on the CBC news site today about paid online 'influencers'. It appears there are a few BC Liberal ones on this thread. It's the only party in B.C. that can afford to pay workers to hang out on this site all day. I don't know why they're wasting their corporate donations this way, though. The whole Okanagan Valley is inundated with people who never have and never will vote for any other party than the BC Liberal (nee Social Credit) party. Oh well, I guess if you have almost $20 million in the war chest, you have to find inventive ways to spend it.

According to David Black, in the article you're referencing, it's "parties" and not "the Liberal Party." Good try but some of us actually read the articles that are linked!

[flamingfingers]

Why is Christy Clark the most disliked premier?

She is uncaring and ARROGANT!!:

Christy Clark literally turned her back on a voter, British Columbians are calling her 'arrogant'
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No wonder polls show Christy Clark is the "most disliked" leader in British Columbia.

One voter in North Vancouver learned the hard way what happens when you decide to speak your mind rather than let yourself be used as a prop in a Christy Clark photo-op:

Watch the video:
https://www.pressprogress.ca/christy_cl ... r_arrogant

[hobbyguy]

The raw log issue is made to seem simple by the NDP tooters. It is clearly isn't. This is a 2011 article, but it is apropos: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... t-raw-logs

"The increase in foreign log sales has meant a spike in B.C. logging operations; stands of timber that were not economical to harvest at Canadian prices are now being cut down for Asian buyers. The surge in activity, in turn, has maintained the flow of low-grade logs into B.C. sawmills, says Dave Lewis, executive director of the Truck Loggers Association. Logs for the domestic market wouldn’t be economical to harvest on their own. But with export premiums already paying off the overhead costs, B.C. logging firms can afford to pull out the low-grade timber needed to fuel the province’s saw and pulp mills, says Mr. Lewis."

“The thing everybody needs to get through their head is, if we don’t get that export premium, that other wood doesn’t come to market,” says Mr. Lewis. Even with the increase in forestry activity, B.C. harvesters are still coming in well below the Allowable Annual Cut, a government limit on the province’s tree harvest"

Most forestry-sector insiders agree that B.C.’s long-neglected sawmill sector is in desperate need of investment. Many sawmills are hard to reach and feature out-of-date equipment — especially when compared with mills south of the border. “We’ve got issues that aren’t as simple as saying, ‘No more log exports,’ ” says Tom Sundher.

Ironically, the neglected state of B.C. mills could be due in part to the province’s history of harsh restrictions on log exports, says Harry Nelson, a professor of forest resources management at the University of British Columbia. Shielded from competitive pressure, sawmills were under less pressure to keep up with global forestry trends."

Now add into that picture that modern mills can produce so much more, and with fewer logs.

According to StatsCan, sawmilling productivity (output per hour worked) rose 70% between 1997 and 2005 alone. Since that time, productivity in the BC forest Industry has been improving at a rate of 4.7% per year - so at least another 50% since then. So the total productivity increase since 1997 (NDP time) for a total productivity increase of 120%. That means the industry needs only 46% of the workers it needed in 1997 to produce the same amount of lumber. Part of the way that is done is to pick an ideally located mill, invest heavily in automation, and then shut down the old labor intensive mills.

Add into that other technologies like log scanners and computerized log usage, and you get much more lumber per log.

The net result is huge job losses over the past two decades, even though total output is pretty much the same.

You can't go back, and there is excess wood in some areas. Aboriginal loggers are now making a good living exporting logs.

In many ways the NDP saying that they will bring back the sawmills through poorly thought out policy is akin to lamenting that we no longer make horse drawn carts and buggy whips. It is a promise the NDP will break, because it has no basis in reality.

[The Green Barbarian]

Watch the video:
https://www.pressprogress.ca/christy_cl ... r_arrogant

LOL - press progress. Do the Dippers ever go outside their horrible backward thinking echo chambers?

[Urbane]

I've been critical of the Liberals on many issues but my respect for Christy Clark has risen considerably during this campaign. She's faced a lot of nasty, personal, petty, and mean-spirited attacks and has acquitted herself with grace. While the NDP has been ahead in the polls I sense a bit of what happened in 2013 happening again. These attacks, particularly the ones which are clearly erroneous, don't sit well with people and it's likely that they'll backfire. When you look at some of the ridiculous "I hate Christy Clark" threads on here you just have to shake your head. When the campaign started I was seriously considering a protest vote but on May 9th, or earlier in an advance poll, I will happily vote for Christy Clark.

[Jflem1983]

Anybody but the ndp

[Hassel99]

Why is Christy Clark the most disliked premier?

She is not.

For the record, 3 most liked.

No wonder polls show Christy Clark is the "most disliked" leader in British Columbia.

One voter in North Vancouver learned the hard way what happens when you decide to speak your mind rather than let yourself be used as a prop in a Christy Clark photo-op:

Watch the video:
https://www.pressprogress.ca/christy_cl ... r_arrogant

That link you posted, it is talking about BC Leaders running for office, Not premiers.


You are so filled with hate and quick to attack her you don't even comprehend what you are reading. You skim for any ammunition to attack regardless of the truth.

Embarrassing, yet a fitting metaphor for the entire NDP.

[flamingfingers]

Urbane wrote\;

When the campaign started I was seriously considering a protest vote but on May 9th, or earlier in an advance poll, I will happily vote for Christy Clark.

Such a surprise Urbane, especially since you have claimed to have been 'so critical' of the ChristyLiberals.

But I guess that ethics, morals, lies and downright corruption mean little to you. Lie with dogs and you get up with fleas.