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    flamingfingers wrote:Such a surprise Urbane, especially since you have claimed to have been 'so critical' of the ChristyLiberals.

    But I guess that ethics, morals, lies and downright corruption mean little to you. Lie with dogs and you get up with fleas.

This is a dead-end discussion that we've had previously but suffice it to say that I take into account the actions of all political parties and not just the actions of the BC Liberals.
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@Urbane (7:45pm)
Surprise, surprise!

One more time: If David Emerson is such a great negotiator, why did we have to pay the US $1 Billion in order to get that last softwood lumber agreement signed?
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    lasnomadas wrote:@Urbane (7:45pm)
    Surprise, surprise!

    One more time: If David Emerson is such a great negotiator, why did we have to pay the US $1 Billion in order to get that last softwood lumber agreement signed?
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Ask a silly question.......... Where can I find the Reader's Digest version of that? ;-)
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fluffy wrote:Bloviating.
I had to look that one up. There isn't a better word for this situation.



You have conflicting statement. In your tag quote you have "argue the point not the person" but I think you are giving props to hobbyguy's post where all he is doing is another one of his pointless verball attacks on John Horgan.
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Hassel99 wrote:
flamingfingers wrote:Why is Christy Clark the most disliked premier?



She is not.

For the record, 3 most liked.

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No wonder polls show Christy Clark is the "most disliked" leader in British Columbia.

One voter in North Vancouver learned the hard way what happens when you decide to speak your mind rather than let yourself be used as a prop in a Christy Clark photo-op:

Watch the video:
https://www.pressprogress.ca/christy_cl ... r_arrogant




That link you posted, it is talking about BC Leaders running for office, Not premiers.


You are so filled with hate and quick to attack her you don't even comprehend what you are reading. You skim for any ammunition to attack regardless of the truth.

Embarrassing, yet a fitting metaphor for the entire NDP.



The NDP slobs sure take a hit and run approach. You prove them wrong, they run to a different thread. FF needs to answer for her lie about Christy Clark's popularity rating.
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Mr_Mrs_Wolf wrote:You have conflicting statement. In your tag you quote you have "argue the point not the person" but I think you are giving props to hoddyguy's post where all he is doing is another one of his pointless verball attacks on John Horgan.


You've got a point there. I should deal with that.
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Gone_Fishin wrote:The NDP slobs sure take a hit and run approach. You prove them wrong, they run to a different thread. FF needs to answer for her lie about Christy Clark's popularity rating.


I agree.

Just like a hypocrite to complain about Liberal ads saying the economy is better under them, than it was under the NDP, then twisting the information in an article to make it sound like the NDP did fantastic, despite all factual records showing otherwise, and now promoting lies as to the popularity of Clark. Pathetic!

You have to give them a bit of a break though, because it's hard to keep track of the lies, when all your data is manufactured.
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As a still undecided voter I have to say I really do not give a "flying fig" about what happened over 16 years ago. All I care about it what is happening NOW, and what each Party is planning for the FUTURE.

Digging up stuff from over 16 years ago is not helpful; not even to the Liberals. Because if problems still exist that they've had 16 years to fix, then the Liberals have only themselves to blame.

Moving on to what is relevant TODAY, I do think there's room to improve our minimum wage and don't buy the argument that it's unfair to small business. Because any business that can't afford to pay a living wage to it's employees, probably shouldn't be in business in the first place.

That said, too big of an increase too fast WOULD be problematic; so I hope the NDP moves slowly on this one. How high do they want to raise it, and over what time period? Does anyone know?
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Merry wrote:As a still undecided voter I have to say I really do not give a "flying fig" about what happened over 16 years ago. All I care about it what is happening NOW, and what each Party is planning for the FUTURE.


The premise is that we humans are supposed to learn from our history, as such endeavoring to not repeat failures.

It's in that context that what happened 16 yrs ago does have a bearing, given many who had a hand in that, are now vying for office again, and doing so in the hopes that voters will forget, or feel as you do.

The same key players are still in charge of the NDP, so history has shown there is no reason to expect a different outcome, if they were given another opportunity.

That feeling being reinforced, by the lack of acceptable response, to important questions, such as how is your plan going to be funded.

There is no way Horgan can fulfill what he's promising, without major tax increases that nail us all, and suggesting that he'll figure it out once elected, is a huge red flag, and deal breaker.

Even the thought of the NDP getting another try, instantly brings to mind the saying, "the definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result."

From my point of view if we're going to give someone a chance, it should be the Greens, given most of what they propose makes far more sense than the NDP platform, plus they haven't disappointed us in the past. If they fail, one can only hope that the damage done, would be less than what we can count on from the NDP.
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Gone-Fishing; Your popularity graph of Premiers is old (last year's). Here is some more recent information that shows Christy Clark's popularity in decline:

"Premier Christy Clark’s popularity is dipping with less than two months until the provincial election, according to a national poll on the performance of premiers across Canada. Clark’s popularity fell four points to 31 per cent this quarter, ranking her fourth of the most-popular premiers in the country, according to the Angus Reid Institute poll." ~ Global News, March 24, 2017
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I really could not care less what the rest of Canada thinks of Christy. I know what I think of her and her party and to me that is all that counts.
As far as I am concerned she is our absentee MLA and oft times absentee Premier. If there is a chance she will get her picture taken she here on the first thing smoking.
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Old Techie wrote:
Gone_Fishin wrote:The NDP slobs sure take a hit and run approach. You prove them wrong, they run to a different thread. FF needs to answer for her lie about Christy Clark's popularity rating.


I agree.

Just like a hypocrite to complain about Liberal ads saying the economy is better under them, than it was under the NDP, then twisting the information in an article to make it sound like the NDP did fantastic, despite all factual records showing otherwise, and now promoting lies as to the popularity of Clark. Pathetic!

You have to give them a bit of a break though, because it's hard to keep track of the lies, when all your data is manufactured.


BC’s credit rating remained stable throughout the 1990s under the NDP. In 1990, BC’s credit rating was AA a rating, (the best in Canada at that time), that remained in place right through to 1999, when it dropped to AA- under circumstances beyond the provincial government’s control; namely the Asian Market collapse. *How's that for a factual record on good NDP performance Old Techie? :smt045

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.1400605
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Here is another factual record of the NDP performance during the 1990s Old Techie, this one comes from the 1997 budget, showing BC having the highest job growth in the country under the NDP.

http://www.fin.gov.bc.ca/archive/budget97/bcleads.gif

Did you want more factual records on NDP performance during the 1990's Old Techie? :D
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BeingHuman wrote:Gone-Fishing; Your popularity graph of Premiers is old (last year's). Here is some more recent information that shows Christy Clark's popularity in decline:

"Premier Christy Clark’s popularity is dipping with less than two months until the provincial election, according to a national poll on the performance of premiers across Canada. Clark’s popularity fell four points to 31 per cent this quarter, ranking her fourth of the most-popular premiers in the country, according to the Angus Reid Institute poll." ~ Global News, March 24, 2017



I posted the chart not Gone-fishing, It was from DEC 2016
Try and read the posts before you respond to them.

The only point of that post was to expose a FlameFingers NDP lie.


Both you and Flamefingers and many of the NDP supporters are cut from the same cloth. SO excited to get a GOTCHYA moment you don't even take the time to read and comprehend what is being posted.


The post is only relevant to expose Flamefingers for what she is.








So Flamefingers? Why did you lie and say Chisty is the most disliked premier?

Just admit you did not read what you posted.

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