Denying the obvious

[Veovis]

If you support Christy Clark BC Liberals you must be OK with this then too.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/bri ... e34615260/

What an ignorant concept. Because you don't like one thing must mean you love something unrelated. This is the massively denied obvious fact of the left creating issue when no one said anything of the sort.

IT's the same as me noting that since you don't like that issue, you must support raping 5 year old kids. I find that offensive you support that Mr_Mrs_Wolf......shame on you.

One has nothing to do with the other and such claims are ridiculous. I know NDP supporters rally behind people doing horrible things and let them off the hook (if they wear the right shirt) but the rest of the people actually tend to condemn all horrible people.

This isn't any attack on you, just trying to point out your connections of guilt are horribly misplaced, and if you can make such horrible claims then why can't others show the same negligence towards you?

[flamingfingers]

^Regardless of your diatribe above, the question remains:

Do you actually still support the government despite the atrocities it committed in the health care firings and responsibility in the death of Rod MacIsaac?

[lasnomadas]

Of course not. They pulled that old 'second bridge' carrot out of the garden before the 2013 election as well, and if they manage to get reelected (God forbid) they'll pull it out again in 2021. And I have to ask, isn't the highways dept a branch of the BC government? It's obvious that one of their 'reps' would come up with that 96% local traffic b.s.

(Oops, I thought we were still discussing the Kelowna bridge!)

[maryjane48]

clark and her govt publicly denied any wrong doing and in that act now own this . plus they refused to even say sorry to the family of the man directly .

[Urbane]

Of course not. They pulled that old 'second bridge' carrot out of the garden before the 2013 election as well, and if they manage to get reelected (God forbid) they'll pull it out again in 2021. And I have to ask, isn't the highways dept a branch of the BC government? It's obvious that one of their 'reps' would come up with that 96% local traffic b.s.

(Oops, I thought we were still discussing the Kelowna bridge!)

You may not know this but West Kelowna is in many ways a bedroom community for Kelowna. A lot of people live on the westside of the lake and drive across the bridge to work and back each day. Then there are all the people who go in to Orchard Park or other stores to shop or they might have appointments there. Your conspiracy theory is interesting but it doesn't hold water. It seems logical to me that the vast majority of vehicles are remaining in the Central Okanagan.

[Urban Cowboy]

Of course not. They pulled that old 'second bridge' carrot out of the garden before the 2013 election as well, and if they manage to get reelected (God forbid) they'll pull it out again in 2021. And I have to ask, isn't the highways dept a branch of the BC government? It's obvious that one of their 'reps' would come up with that 96% local traffic b.s.

(Oops, I thought we were still discussing the Kelowna bridge!)

Clearly as in so many other threads, you display your lack of ability to obtain actual facts, in lieu of inventing falsehoods as anti Liberal ammunition.

I've lived here quite a long time, and I recall very clearly how the first time a second crossing was mentioned, it was also stated that it was being looked at in the long term transportation needs of the area. They also stated 20 years down the road, so there goes your carrot theory.

As for the other it doesn't even classify as worthy of an answer, other than when it comes to BS, you'd certainly be well qualified to recognize it.

[lasnomadas]

@Urbane:
Yes, I know that there are people on the west side of the lake who work in Kelowna, and there are people who have medical and dental appointments there from time to time. (Personally, I find shopping in West Kelowna more pleasant, since I live on the west side). And for those people, the present bridge can handle that local traffic. For the freight carriers and tourists who are heading to destinations beyond the Okanagan valley, the Westside Road route would be ideal, if it were straightened and widened, that is. I just don't believe that 96% - 4% ratio that you've been told. Like I said, I'm very skeptical when the government tells me something that sounds like an election campaign ploy.

[Urbane]

^^ It's obvious to most who live here that the old floating bridge needed to be replaced. The traffic backups were horrendous at times and the bridge itself was not in great shape. The NDP agreed that the bridge needed to be replaced and promised to do so. They broke their promise of course. Anyway, you won't believe me but I can assure you that most people who live around here are pleased that the WR Bennett Bridge was constructed.

[lasnomadas]

Well, we mustn't cry over spilled milk, must we? The Bennett bridge was built whether or not the old floating bridge could have been maintained and twinned, and as I said, those 5 lanes (that should have been six) will suffice as a local corridor for the foreseeable future, but a second bridge simply to bypass downtown Kelowna is a bad idea. If they're finally thinking of bypassing Kelowna, they should do it right and make Westside Road a proper highway joining West Kelowna with Hwy 97 just north of Vernon.

[Urbane]

Well, we mustn't cry over spilled milk, must we? The Bennett bridge was built whether or not the old floating bridge could have been maintained and twinned, and as I said, those 5 lanes (that should have been six) will suffice as a local corridor for the foreseeable future, but a second bridge simply to bypass downtown Kelowna is a bad idea. If they're finally thinking of bypassing Kelowna, they should do it right and make Westside Road a proper highway joining West Kelowna with Hwy 97 just north of Vernon.

Spending a lot of money to bypass Kelowna will be good news to 4% of drivers but not so good news for 96%. To repeat, the vast majority of residents of the Central Okanagan are pleased that the WR Bennett Bridge was built and they understand that keeping the old bridge wasn't feasible.

[krocky]

It's obvious to most who live here that the old floating bridge needed to be replaced.

Urbane - bridge, Rwede - HST don't you two have any new material, you both went on and on about this stuff last election. Oh that's right there hasn't been anything new or worthwhile for you to defend in the last 4 years.

Why are you denying the obvious, the Liberals have got to go.. What do you think her highnesses chances are of winning her own riding. I think she has already lost in her home riding once or twice before. I wonder if she will have to give someone else who wins their spot the boot again so she can take it.

[lasnomadas]

Man.......ain't that the truth! I do wish both these BC Liberal supporters would read the latest entry here: "Liberal (Socred) lifer packs it in". There comes a time when even the most staunch supporter can't deny the obvious.

[Urbane]

Urbane - bridge, Rwede - HST don't you two have any new material, you both went on and on about this stuff last election. Oh that's right there hasn't been anything new or worthwhile for you to defend in the last 4 years.

Why are you denying the obvious, the Liberals have got to go.. What do you think her highnesses chances are of winning her own riding. I think she has already lost in her home riding once or twice before. I wonder if she will have to give someone else who wins their spot the boot again so she can take it.

Someone asked what the Liberals had accomplished during their time in office and a poster supplied a long list. One of the those items was the WR Bennett Bridge and we were told that the bridge wasn't an accomplishment (I paraphrase). So that's why the discussion came up about the bridge. Those who regret that the bridge was built are in the minority.

Anyone who thinks that Christy Clark might lose Kelowna West is living in a dream world. Whether or not the Liberals win provincially is another matter and I wouldn't bet a nickel either way even though some NDP'ers on here seem to be 100% sure of victory. Time will tell . . .

[Urbane]

Man.......ain't that the truth! I do wish both these BC Liberal supporters would read the latest entry here: "Liberal (Socred) lifer packs it in". There comes a time when even the most staunch supporter can't deny the obvious.

Yeah, the sleaze factor is clearly evident, arrogance has set in, lack of transparency is disturbing, and the Liberals deserve to be defeated. Just like they deserved to be defeated in 2013. However, despite some on here who deny the obvious, our economy is very strong and that's a big point in favour of the Liberals. Add it all up and they still deserve to be defeated though. If only there were a viable free enterprise option voters would happily boot the Liberals right out of office. Alas, there isn't.

[madmudder]

Don't you mean the free to rip off the taxpayers of BC party? The BC Lieberals