Fire danger
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Re: Fire danger
Have to wonder about some of my fellow citizens . . .
This AM was in front yard and peace/quiet disturbed by loud pipes AND blaring music from motorcycle coming around corner. OK - can live with that, but the operator was very cool-looking, bandana, et al - and especially puffing the cigarette hanging out of his mouth as he motored past.
Questions: Think he has an enclosed ashtray on that bike?
If not - where will the ashes / embers go?
Is it possible an ember could fly off and land in dry roadside grasses?
Will cig be butted safely - or tossed?
Considering many (most?) fires have human origins, have to ask people to get their acts together and reduce the potential for 'accidents' - regardless of the 'Cool look factor'!!!
Please consider the extreme hazard warnings.
This AM was in front yard and peace/quiet disturbed by loud pipes AND blaring music from motorcycle coming around corner. OK - can live with that, but the operator was very cool-looking, bandana, et al - and especially puffing the cigarette hanging out of his mouth as he motored past.
Questions: Think he has an enclosed ashtray on that bike?
If not - where will the ashes / embers go?
Is it possible an ember could fly off and land in dry roadside grasses?
Will cig be butted safely - or tossed?
Considering many (most?) fires have human origins, have to ask people to get their acts together and reduce the potential for 'accidents' - regardless of the 'Cool look factor'!!!
Please consider the extreme hazard warnings.
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Re: Fire danger
I truly feel for all the evacuated/displaced Families/people (as well pets/& other animals) in this Province due to forest fires.
Went from wet spring to this in snap of ones fingers almost, Wow.
Went from wet spring to this in snap of ones fingers almost, Wow.
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Re: Fire danger
Here's a news flash for you: Kelowna is not the centre of the universe! Just because it was record wet in the the Okanagan that doesn't mean it was record wet everywhere or even wetter than normal. For example, Tatlayoko Lake in the Cariboo was drier than normal in March. Drier than normal in April. Drier than normal in May, and pretty much rainless since.GordonH wrote:I truly feel for all the evacuated/displaced Families/people (as well pets/& other animals) in this Province due to forest fires.
Went from wet spring to this in snap of ones fingers almost, Wow.
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Re: Fire danger
Government forest fire fighting policy is completely
up..Even now that a Provincial state of emergency has been called, there's no exception to the rules.
The three big fires in the Little Fort/ Dunn Lake area are out of control, yet at the time of me writing this, there's only three bodies and one piece of equipment on scene..Meanwhile, 20 miles further up the NT river where I live there's three fire fighting contractors that have not been called out because they're not far enough up the list of designated fire fighting contractors..besides that, there's also 82 logging contractors working the upper NT valley right now with all the right equipment, and most of their crews holding the s100 fire ticket, however the MOF won't use them because they aren't on the designated contractor list, It all comes down to liability.....A state of emergency has been called, local loggers and local fire fighting contractors have to sit back and watch the forest burn down until crews from Australia and Ontario get here.
This also happened a couple years ago, crews from Ontario were fighting fires in my region, and local fire fighting crews were sent to the Yukon.
Furthermore, Todd Stone called the Provincial state of emergency. How come nonessential vehicles aren't being restricted from entering the province? How come tourists aren't being told to leave ASAP for both their protection, and so they won't be placing a burden on our already stretched to the limit emergency resources as well as food and gas etc that will be in short enough supply to meet the needs of BC citizens if things start to get worse ? You would think that a Provincial state of emergency would include such measures..

The three big fires in the Little Fort/ Dunn Lake area are out of control, yet at the time of me writing this, there's only three bodies and one piece of equipment on scene..Meanwhile, 20 miles further up the NT river where I live there's three fire fighting contractors that have not been called out because they're not far enough up the list of designated fire fighting contractors..besides that, there's also 82 logging contractors working the upper NT valley right now with all the right equipment, and most of their crews holding the s100 fire ticket, however the MOF won't use them because they aren't on the designated contractor list, It all comes down to liability.....A state of emergency has been called, local loggers and local fire fighting contractors have to sit back and watch the forest burn down until crews from Australia and Ontario get here.
This also happened a couple years ago, crews from Ontario were fighting fires in my region, and local fire fighting crews were sent to the Yukon.
Furthermore, Todd Stone called the Provincial state of emergency. How come nonessential vehicles aren't being restricted from entering the province? How come tourists aren't being told to leave ASAP for both their protection, and so they won't be placing a burden on our already stretched to the limit emergency resources as well as food and gas etc that will be in short enough supply to meet the needs of BC citizens if things start to get worse ? You would think that a Provincial state of emergency would include such measures..
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Re: Fire danger
North Thompsontsayta wrote:What is NT river?
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Re: Fire danger
yea i agree. give them govt insurance and get anyone capable and willing into the fight. theres no rain forecast for large area of bc
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Re: Fire danger
Reports have it some areas are either running out of fuel or are out of fuel, those trying to get out of the area. Could have a problem doing so i.e Clearwater has run out of gasoline
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Re: Fire danger
I sure hope the changeover of government isn't messing things up
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Re: Fire danger
impo every available forest fighter in Western Canada should heading here now.
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Re: Fire danger
Nope, the old government is still running the show. The new government hasn't been sworn in yet. It was Todd Stone that called the state of emergency.tsayta wrote:I sure hope the changeover of government isn't messing things up
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Re: Fire danger
This is just north of Little Fort on the east side of the NT River taken last evening. It's really
ignorant that local logging contractors ARE NOT allowed to put their equipment in there a build fire guards. There's one lone air tanker flying back and forth between Adams Lake and the three fires in the immediate area. ETA: the fire is now much bigger than in the picture.


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That's INSANEHurtlander wrote:This is just north of Little Fort on the east side of the NT River taken last evening. It's really![]()
ignorant that local logging contractors ARE NOT allowed to put their equipment in there a build fire guards. There's one lone air tanker flying back and forth between Adams Lake and the three fires in the immediate area.
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We have ~80 contract firefighters in camp in WK, but currently they're demobing sandbags from the flood.GordonH wrote:impo every available forest fighter in Western Canada should heading here now.
While government talks about bringing in out of province firefighters.
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OMG that is crazyWildfire 3 wrote:We have ~80 contract firefighters in camp in WK, but currently they're demobing sandbags from the flood.GordonH wrote:impo every available forest fighter in Western Canada should heading here now.
While government talks about bringing in out of province firefighters.
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