Kirschner Mountain Flooding

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LTD wrote:snowing heeeavy now


:200: :200: :200: :200: :200: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......... :swear:


ETA: Still raining in Lake Country.
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very wet snow wont stick around but coming down heavier than i saw all winter
wont be doing those folks much good tho
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LTD wrote:snowing heeeavy now



Where?
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Blistering windstorm here with fierce black clouds ...Vernon, center of the universe

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bob vernon wrote:As always, municipal politics in the Okanagan is about getting the right candidates elected who will give the zoning to developers. As the cities push higher up onto the hills, expect more developments on slopes with trees removed, allowing a rapid snow melt and lots of runoff. Ditches for drainage?? Storm sewers?? Those are expensive for developers to put in and they cut into the bottom line. Engineers to design proper drainage charge a lot, too. And that reduces the profit.

Of course city hall should take some responsibility, but everybody's ducking.

When complete, the latest phase of Kirschner Mountain will have curb and gutter and storm drainage, there is no other option. The older section which flooded has only open ditches. The problem is that the runoff from the area under construction runs into the back yards of the homes on Verda Vista with no intercept. This is not about cutting corners or maximizing profit, it is about timing, bad luck to be incomplete during a spring melt.
That is not to say that removing all the trees isn't a factor but the alternative is developing farmland in the valley bottom instead of the hillsides. The developer has taken responsibility what more can you ask for?
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I'm sure those folks flooding could ask for dry homes and might have to ask for remediation.

From the article https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/221737/We-have-it-under-control

If we don’t get much rain tomorrow we will be just fine,” said Kirschner. “It is the big rain the boys are worried about right now.”


I don't know about the rest of you, but in Rutland South it has been pouring for a good two hours.
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^^ The point is the developer has stepped up, and that's all one can expect.

I can think of examples of flooding where, the CoK or District, simply stalled and passed the buck, even though it was their rubber stamp on the development, that caused the flooding.
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alanjh595 wrote:
LTD wrote:snowing heeeavy now



Where?

my house :biggrin: i would tell ya where but id have to kill ya :smt045 coming down heavy still got about 3 inches now not good for those having water issues already
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Catsumi wrote:Blistering windstorm here with fierce black clouds ...Vernon, center of the universe

:biggrin:

The sun is the center of the universe.
People have known that during their whole 5000 year exsistance.
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Bpeep wrote:
Catsumi wrote:Blistering windstorm here with fierce black clouds ...Vernon, center of the universe

:biggrin:

The sun is the center of the universe.
People have known that during their whole 5000 year exsistance.



While you were slurping up your batch things shifted a bit. And everyone knows peoplekind arrived only yesterday from spaceships.

Try to keep up Bpeep.
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You cannot change the topography of a mountain and not expect water to find its own new route, road building 101, even the guys in the bush know that when they push a logging road through, they have to include under road culverts. Just another developer taking shortcuts, and the city engineers, not inspecting.
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water doesn,t allways flow downhill it flow to money
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John Crawford wrote:You cannot change the topography of a mountain and not expect water to find its own new route, road building 101, even the guys in the bush know that when they push a logging road through, they have to include under road culverts. Just another developer taking shortcuts, and the city engineers, not inspecting.


And you know this how? As has been said before, it’s a development project that is nowhere near completion that is experiencing higher than normal snowpack melt and an almost record rainfall. But, keep on posting baseless assumptions and anti-developement rhetoric.
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WalterWhite wrote:
John Crawford wrote:You cannot change the topography of a mountain and not expect water to find its own new route, road building 101, even the guys in the bush know that when they push a logging road through, they have to include under road culverts. Just another developer taking shortcuts, and the city engineers, not inspecting.





And you know this how? As has been said before, it’s a development project that is nowhere near completion that is experiencing higher than normal snowpack melt and an almost record rainfall. But, keep on posting baseless assumptions and anti-developement rhetoric.




Umm look who posted it ... ever hear of Crawford estates ...
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WalterWhite wrote:
John Crawford wrote:You cannot change the topography of a mountain and not expect water to find its own new route, road building 101, even the guys in the bush know that when they push a logging road through, they have to include under road culverts. Just another developer taking shortcuts, and the city engineers, not inspecting.





And you know this how? As has been said before, it’s a development project that is nowhere near completion that is experiencing higher than normal snowpack melt and an almost record rainfall. But, keep on posting baseless assumptions and anti-developement rhetoric.




Jflem1983 wrote:Umm look who posted it ... ever hear of Crawford estates ...


Well, I’d appreciate a little more background confirmation than just a last name coincidence on a public forum, but yes, I’m quite familiar with Crawford Estates, and actually had first person experience with a rather substantial mud and water slide incident originating in the upper Crawford Rd. area that impacted a number of properties, especially down at the Crawford/Dehart intersection with one house suffering over 6 ft. of mud and debris impacting their home a few years ago - and that’s from an area that’s been developed for over 30 years.

ETA: it was almost 7 years ago and occurred in August when the ground is far less saturated than current conditions.
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