Climate Change Mega Thread

[Jlabute]

This has nothing to do with climate, but everything to do with poisons that affects life on earth. I'd rather governments spend some money to phase out PFOAs and various poisonous chemicals, instead of fighting beneficial CO2.

I've done my part. I don't buy no-stick PFOA pans or products. There are lots of options around this. It also goes without saying that 4pg/L is a very small concentration... you can always trust the EPA to exaggerate everything under the democrats. Either way, maybe say goodbye to Teflon, and Gore-Tex. I never buy Teflon pans... yuck. It is one thing bird owners never do.

Here is some good info on Fluorine based chemicals in the environment. Of course, no one really knows what levels are actually toxic rather than potentially toxic.

https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/7e3925 ... 9988947474

safe drinking water does have to do with climate because if the rain stops falling in large parts because of it like Europe is now seeing, the natural cycle of water filtering stops.


your right about the those frying pans , if they get to hot they let off nasty stuff.

The imperceptible amount of fluorine-based chemical in the air does not change the amount of rain. PFOAs do not induce any effect on climate. Perhaps, one needs an 'environmental' thread.

[captkirkcanada]

i'm not saying that chemical does, what i'm saying is if the natural cycle of cleaning water is interrupted because of drought , then it is bad for those who rely on clean water which cover most life on earth.

[Jlabute]

Biden falsely links Kentucky floods to ‘climate change’ – Reality Check: Floods ‘have not increased in frequency or intensity’ – White House ignores peer-reviewed studies & IPCC & data.

Record amounts of rain had fallen in Kentucky back in 1997. Floods such as these are localized events and there is no correlation between CO2 and rainfall. Floods are also not increasing on a global scale.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2022/08/09 ... ipcc-data/

[Jlabute]

Great Barrier Reef coral is at an all time high for 2022.

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Obviously coral is resilient to changes in climate and oceans as they have been for millions of years. Whatever de-scienced millennial minds also hides the good news from the public.

AIMS has effectively hidden the very good news about the Reef in 2022 by not publishing the GBR average data since 2017. This is because it is very unusual for all three major regions, and almost every sector, to be well above average at any moment in time.

Interesting

Why is coral not 100% on a coral reef

Coral cover is the percentage of the seafloor covered with coral. It is often assumed that coral cover should be 100% on a healthy coral reef. However, a reef is made of many different ecosystems. These include coral sand made from broken down coral, ancient dead coral ‘rock’, soft corals, algal beds, and crustose coralline algae which is a hard algae that helps cement together the dead coral on a coral reef. Dead coral is like concrete – it does not rot like wood. Coral grows on the dead bodies of their ancestors, and in doing so build ‘reefs”. Most of the reefs of the GBR have built up 50 to 100 meters above the surrounding seafloor in the last million years.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/12/ ... ackground/

[JLives]

Great Barrier Reef coral is at an all time high for 2022.


1-768x399-1.png

Obviously coral is resilient to changes in climate and oceans as they have been for millions of years. Whatever de-scienced millennial minds also hides the good news from the public.

AIMS has effectively hidden the very good news about the Reef in 2022 by not publishing the GBR average data since 2017. This is because it is very unusual for all three major regions, and almost every sector, to be well above average at any moment in time.

Interesting

Why is coral not 100% on a coral reef

Coral cover is the percentage of the seafloor covered with coral. It is often assumed that coral cover should be 100% on a healthy coral reef. However, a reef is made of many different ecosystems. These include coral sand made from broken down coral, ancient dead coral ‘rock’, soft corals, algal beds, and crustose coralline algae which is a hard algae that helps cement together the dead coral on a coral reef. Dead coral is like concrete – it does not rot like wood. Coral grows on the dead bodies of their ancestors, and in doing so build ‘reefs”. Most of the reefs of the GBR have built up 50 to 100 meters above the surrounding seafloor in the last million years.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/12/ ... ackground/

Because a blog told you that? Got a real link to back that up?

[Jlabute]

Great Barrier Reef coral is at an all time high for 2022.


1-768x399-1.png

Obviously coral is resilient to changes in climate and oceans as they have been for millions of years. Whatever de-scienced millennial minds also hides the good news from the public.

Interesting

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/12/ ... ackground/

Because a blog told you that? Got a real link to back that up?

Obviously, if you read the article and noticed it was written by a leading expert on the GBR and that he used AIMS data to create his graph (with an actual link to the data), then it'd be obvious. It is more measurement than science, and there is nothing wrong with blogs considering there is little definitive information on climate. Your bias is showing. Does NASA's blog say anything different? Do you dispute the measurements? If so, find something better and post it.

[JLives]

Because a blog told you that? Got a real link to back that up?

Obviously, if you read the article and noticed it was written by a leading expert on the GBR and that he used AIMS data to create his graph (with an actual link to the data), then it'd be obvious. It is more measurement than science, and there is nothing wrong with blogs considering there is little definitive information on climate. Your bias is showing. Does NASA's blog say anything different? Do you dispute the measurements? If so, find something better and post it.

Ok, well link original studies in your then. Blogs links are immediately discrediting, that's why I don't use them myself.

[77TA]

Studies and blogs don't matter anyway.
We can be sure the world is ending because cars get hot inside when you roll up the windows while they're facing Venus.

[Catsumi]

Studies and blogs don't matter anyway.
We can be sure the world is ending because cars get hot inside when you roll up the windows while they're facing Venus.

Thanks.

My laugh of the day!

[captkirkcanada]

Firefighters talk about what it like fighting fires caused by unprecidented drought .

have been a firefighter for 40 years and I had never seen such a fire," said Jean-Pierre Le Cunff, tactical fire chief for the Haute-Garonne region, who has two sons in the force. "We are waiting for rain, for snow, for winter, for God," he said.

There was no disagreement that the climate was changing for the worse. "We talk about global warming of course," Le Cunff said. "We see it, we feel it. This year, it is striking. In the mountains there is no glacier any more, everything is dry, the herds have nothing to eat

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62539385

So lets review shall we ? If you think climate change is part of some hoax then you are on essense saying these firefighters are liars , or if like me you trust the large majority of researchers who say humans are playing a part because our activities put ghg into our air causing our atmosphere to act more and more like a greenhouse .

Who has the more credibility ? Oil investors who complain or people who actualy look into this stuff ? Place your bets

[77TA]

Let's review.
Unprecedented?
No.
Are fire fighters climate change experts?
No.
Do majority of experts agree?
No.
Should anyone listen to you?
No.

[captkirkcanada]

Let's review.
Unprecedented?
No.
Are fire fighters climate change experts?
No.
Do majority of experts agree?
No.
Should anyone listen to you?
No.

Lets review i never said any of that except most climate experts do say humans are making climate change faster , that part is true . No one can prove it isnt true .

So lets review a lil more and stick to what i posted and not made up stuff otay ?

[77TA]

*removed*

[captkirkcanada]

The topic is climate change

[captkirkcanada]

while global warming explains why forest fires are more becoming more frequent and intense, such fires can in turn accelerate the rise in temperatures”, said Thomas Smith, an assistant professor at the London School of Economics (LSE) who has researched the impact of forest fires on climate.

By consuming the Landes’ famed pine forests, the fires release vast quantities of CO2 stored in the trees. When thousands of hectares go up in smoke “it’s like a carbon bomb exploding”, said Jonathan Lenoir, a specialist in forest management at the CNRS research centre.

Such effects were widely documented following Australia’s historic wildfire season in 2019-2020, which triggered vast algal blooms in the Pacific Ocean and turned New Zealand’s glaciers brown with ash.


The vegetation that grows back naturally is likely to be of a more Mediterranean type, Filippi added, resulting in a landscape similar to the scrubland of southeastern France, “which provides less cover, evaporates less water and therefore also produces less freshness”.

While the short-term outlook is bleak, the increasing fires present “an opportunity to improve forest management in the longer term”, argued LSE’s Smith.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2022 ... management

I would love to see a peer reviewed research arguing against this one but i know it doesnt exsist