Climate Change Mega Thread

[Jlabute]

Good Riddance to Climate Alarmism, and Green Energy Scams.


https://www.newsmax.com/larrybell/clima ... d/1203520/

[Catsumi]

Good Riddance to Climate Alarmism, and Green Energy Scams.


https://www.newsmax.com/larrybell/clima ... d/1203520/

A beautiful read

Thanks, Jlabute

[rustled]

Here's the huge risk that comes with the politicization of science:

There’s the risk that these expansions exacerbate environmental harm that isn’t detectable in small trials, and because of global water circulation, could be felt around the world.

But the alternative to never trying, Ho said, is unabated climate change.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Business/ ... -the-ocean

This willingness to risk causing a real disaster "because climate change" is inexcusable.

[Jlabute]

AI says that CO2s role in global warming has been grossly overstated by the IPCC.


https://climatechangedispatch.com/ai-st ... erstated/#

[LovemyBolt]

AI says that CO2s role in global warming has been grossly overstated by the IPCC.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/ai-st ... erstated/#

lol My magic 8 ball and my tea leaves and my horoscope and the Ouija board all say that the climate is affected by humans burning fossil fuels. Sounds like consensus to me.

[77TA]

AI says that CO2s role in global warming has been grossly overstated by the IPCC.


https://climatechangedispatch.com/ai-st ... erstated/#

The missing blip is hard to ignore.

During the 2020 COVID lockdown, the amount of CO2 released by mankind dropped by about 7% or 2.4 billion tons of CO2. This decrease should have been reflected by a distinct dip in the CO2 data at the Mauna Loa observatory.

CO2-over-time-1850-2022.png

The absence of a noticeable blip in the graph during 2020 supports the conclusion that about 96% of the annual carbon dioxide released, primarily from the ocean, is natural.

[Catsumi]

. The absence of a noticeable blip in the graph during 2020 supports the conclusion that about 96% of the annual carbon dioxide released, primarily from the ocean, is natural

Damn it!

How are we to tax the oceans for their dastardly release of CO2?

[hozzle]

Scary how far the climate scam has reached...

Screenshot 2025-03-31 150353.jpg

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases ... xfam-finds

[youjustcomplain]

Damn it!

How are we to tax the oceans for their dastardly release of CO2?

We are still in debt to the oceans. They still absorb more CO2 than they release, and they do it at no small cost. CO2 is increasing the oceans acidity. If we are to think about life on earth, it all exists due to our oceans. We're risking an awful lot when we dismiss CO2 level increases in our environment, especially when we know humans have massively increased the amount of CO2 being added to both the atmosphere and the oceans.

Maybe we should add a CO2 Tariff on the oceans. That'll show em.

[Jlabute]

Damn it!

How are we to tax the oceans for their dastardly release of CO2?

We are still in debt to the oceans. They still absorb more CO2 than they release, and they do it at no small cost. CO2 is increasing the oceans acidity. If we are to think about life on earth, it all exists due to our oceans. We're risking an awful lot when we dismiss CO2 level increases in our environment, especially when we know humans have massively increased the amount of CO2 being added to both the atmosphere and the oceans.

Maybe we should add a CO2 Tariff on the oceans. That'll show em.

The majority of the CO2 increase originates from the oceans. This happens as oceans warm which has been ongoing for the past 20,000 years. The oceans are very alkaline, not acidic and hold 50x more CO2 than the atmosphere. pH is also salinity and temperature dependent. The oceans are not becoming "more acidic", nor is CO2 forcing heating the oceans, that is done by direct sunlight.

There is no man-made risk because there is no man-made danger. There could very well be a benefit. Healthier foliage for one.

One of the most famous lies of the 20th century is that ocean "acidification" would cause brain impairment in species of fish and harm coral. The IPCC used these studies. Ten years later, numerous "studies" pushing this bad science were retracted. "Scientists" fabricated data to push a partisan-narrative driven agenda. Yet again, another James Cook Uni graduate.

You are worried about something that has never caused a problem and never can.


https://retractionwatch.com/2022/02/17/ ... isconduct/


To imagine that everything suggested in this article is crazy-nuts and all the data was faked. More than 20 articles have been retracted. The "large body" of research was paid for and faked. To think you can find alarming behavioral changes in fish that no one else can reproduce.

A large body of academic research claimed increased ocean acidification caused by rising levels of C0₂ in the air and water was changing the habits of the lovable clownfish and his friends in alarming ways.

https://financialpost.com/opinion/how-s ... seem-crazy

[Jlabute]

A 2025 study determines that coral thrived when sea levels were meters higher and warmer than today, 7000 to 5000 years ago.

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Late Holocene “Turn-Off” of Coral Reef Growth in the Northern Red Sea and Implications for a Sea-Level Fall

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf ... /gcb.70073

[youjustcomplain]

The majority of the CO2 increase originates from the oceans. This happens as oceans warm which has been ongoing for the past 20,000 years. The oceans are very alkaline, not acidic and hold 50x more CO2 than the atmosphere. pH is also salinity and temperature dependent. The oceans are not becoming "more acidic", nor is CO2 forcing heating the oceans, that is done by direct sunlight.

There is no man-made risk because there is no man-made danger. There could very well be a benefit. Healthier foliage for one.

One of the most famous lies of the 20th century is that ocean "acidification" would cause brain impairment in species of fish and harm coral. The IPCC used these studies. Ten years later, numerous "studies" pushing this bad science were retracted. "Scientists" fabricated data to push a partisan-narrative driven agenda. Yet again, another James Cook Uni graduate.

You are worried about something that has never caused a problem and never can.


https://retractionwatch.com/2022/02/17/ ... isconduct/


To imagine that everything suggested in this article is crazy-nuts and all the data was faked. More than 20 articles have been retracted. The "large body" of research was paid for and faked. To think you can find alarming behavioral changes in fish that no one else can reproduce.

A large body of academic research claimed increased ocean acidification caused by rising levels of C0₂ in the air and water was changing the habits of the lovable clownfish and his friends in alarming ways.

https://financialpost.com/opinion/how-s ... seem-crazy

I didn't claim that all, or even the majority, of the oceans CO2 comes from the atmosphere or from humans. Only that the oceans absorb more CO2 than they release. This leads to ocean warming.
I also didn't say that the oceans were acidic. Only that the oceans taking in more CO2 is increasing the acidity, which would mean, making it less alkaline.

We, humans, are adding more CO2 to the atmosphere than we have since we started walking upright
The oceans absorb CO2 from the atmosphere
When the oceans absorb CO2, they increase in temperature

-Can you agree with that?

If you can, then how can you say "You are worried about something that has never caused a problem and never can."

That is a statement which sounds an awful lot like that what I'd hear from climate science deniers. People who just reject science in favor of something else, which also might be science, but might not be.

[rustled]

It's unlikely the term "climate science deniers" would be applied by someone who is genuinely focused on science when discussing different theories about how humans impact climate change. However, it is routinely used by many of those who will reject any facts and any scientists' findings that do not support a preferred narrative about humans' impacts on climate change.

[Catsumi]

It's unlikely the term "climate science deniers" would be applied by someone who is genuinely focused on science when discussing different theories about how humans impact climate change. However, it is routinely used by many of those who will reject any facts and any scientists' findings that do not support a preferred narrative about humans' impacts on climate change.

Correct. Real scientists never label people’s preferences or beliefs. They stand apart from that kind of “political” labelling.

[Jlabute]

I didn't claim that all, or even the majority, of the oceans CO2 comes from the atmosphere or from humans. Only that the oceans absorb more CO2 than they release. This leads to ocean warming.
I also didn't say that the oceans were acidic. Only that the oceans taking in more CO2 is increasing the acidity, which would mean, making it less alkaline.

We, humans, are adding more CO2 to the atmosphere than we have since we started walking upright
The oceans absorb CO2 from the atmosphere
When the oceans absorb CO2, they increase in temperature

-Can you agree with that?

If you can, then how can you say "You are worried about something that has never caused a problem and never can."

That is a statement which sounds an awful lot like that what I'd hear from climate science deniers. People who just reject science in favor of something else, which also might be science, but might not be.

Humans or any living thing for that matter do add CO2 to the atmosphere. Humans probably more than others but it is a relatively small amount of the grand total. 80% of the warming CO2 is capable of, is done in the first 20ppm and its response is logarithmic. Additional CO2 after 20ppm, warms less and less, and modern civilization began at 300ppm. Water vapor is responsible for the majority of the warming.

Oceans are primarily heated by sunlight, NOT transfer of CO2 or heat from the atmosphere. We certainly do not agree there as science shows this. Some articles show sea warming follows cloud patterning. Oceans release CO2 as they warm which is happening now. Let us not forget an estimated 100,000 underwater volcanoes/seismic activity which might do more than we know.




https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/04/08 ... he-oceans/