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Jlabute wrote: Apr 9th, 2025, 7:30 am Humans or any living thing for that matter do add CO2 to the atmosphere. Humans probably more than others but it is a relatively small amount of the grand total. 80% of the warming CO2 is capable of, is done in the first 20ppm and its response is logarithmic. Additional CO2 after 20ppm, warms less and less, and modern civilization began at 300ppm. Water vapor is responsible for the majority of the warming.
Right. life on earth, including humans, add CO2 to the environment.
I don't take the position that humans are the biggest contributers, or the only ones. I don't take the position that humans account for more than a small portion of the CO2. Little sense in trying disprove statements I didn't make and positions nobody has ever taken.
Jlabute wrote: Apr 9th, 2025, 7:30 am Oceans are primarily heated by sunlight, NOT transfer of CO2 or heat from the atmosphere. We certainly do not agree there as science shows this. Some articles show sea warming follows cloud patterning. Oceans release CO2 as they warm which is happening now. Let us not forget an estimated 100,000 underwater volcanoes/seismic activity which might do more than we know.
I never stated or took the position that Oceans are primarily heated by CO2. CO2 is not a heat source. Again, are you looking to disprove something I didn't claim? Seems unproductive.

I won't argue that sunlight isn't a factor, but I think it's a little simplistic to claim that oceans are primarily heated by sunlight. Oceans are heated by lots of factors including the light from the sun. Including under water volcanos, and from our atmosphere. I don't have the percentages to show where the biggest heat source is, but if we weren't in orbit around a star, I suspect we'd have little to no heat a all and that there would be no life, so I do suspect that the sun has a very large impact on the warmth of the earth. However, Venus has crazy high temperatures every day, all day. It's also in orbit around out sun, and not so close that we can just say that it's due completely to how much closer to the sun than we are. So we know something else is going on. CO2.

I'm not going to convince you to be less skeptical of the science you refute in order to believe in the science you prefer. And you won't convince me to change my mind. No different than a Christian telling an Atheist all about god. Neither side is going to convert the other. :)
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Jlabute wrote: Apr 9th, 2025, 7:30 am Humans or any living thing for that matter do add CO2 to the atmosphere. Humans probably more than others but it is a relatively small amount of the grand total. 80% of the warming CO2 is capable of, is done in the first 20ppm and its response is logarithmic. Additional CO2 after 20ppm, warms less and less, and modern civilization began at 300ppm. Water vapor is responsible for the majority of the warming.

Oceans are primarily heated by sunlight, NOT transfer of CO2 or heat from the atmosphere. We certainly do not agree there as science shows this. Some articles show sea warming follows cloud patterning. Oceans release CO2 as they warm which is happening now. Let us not forget an estimated 100,000 underwater volcanoes/seismic activity which might do more than we know.




https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/04/08 ... he-oceans/
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List of Climate Myths :smt045

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https://x.com/AmazingZoltan/status/1788724020940079343
Rex Murphy who was an amazing journalist on the climate scam over 20 years ago.
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How climate change could affect arsenic in rice

"Rice is a staple food for more than half of the global population. It is consumed on a daily basis by more people than either wheat or maize, also known as corn.

So it is with some concern that scientists have unveiled a recent finding: that as carbon emissions rise and the Earth continues to warm, so too will arsenic levels in rice.

The presence of arsenic in rice has long been known as a problem. Almost all rice contains arsenic. The harmful, naturally occurring chemical can accumulate in the soil of paddy fields, leaching into the grains of rice grown there. But the amounts found in rice grains can vary considerably from well below the recommended limits set by regulatory bodies to several times higher.

Yet, consuming even low amounts of inorganic arsenic through food or drinking water can lead to cancers and a range of other health problems, such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes."


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2025 ... wtab-en-us
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Lol...^^^ That's quite a stretch. Rice has arsenic. Wellknown. Just eat white rice problem solved.
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Pretty much everything is in everything at some insignificant concentration level. Even uranium is in rice, and potatoes. I suppose it depends where it is growing and if it is a root crop or not, etc.
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77TA wrote: Apr 21st, 2025, 6:55 am Lol...^^^ That's quite a stretch. Rice has arsenic. Wellknown. Just eat white rice problem solved.
Easy enough to say except white rice has a higher glycemic number and is not the best for Diabetics!

We just can't win as everything we need to eat will kill us in the end anyway.

I give up and am going to eat what I want but in moderation!
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fluffy wrote: Apr 21st, 2025, 6:24 am How climate change could affect arsenic in rice

"Rice is a staple food for more than half of the global population. It is consumed on a daily basis by more people than either wheat or maize, also known as corn.

So it is with some concern that scientists have unveiled a recent finding: that as carbon emissions rise and the Earth continues to warm, so too will arsenic levels in rice.

The presence of arsenic in rice has long been known as a problem. Almost all rice contains arsenic. The harmful, naturally occurring chemical can accumulate in the soil of paddy fields, leaching into the grains of rice grown there. But the amounts found in rice grains can vary considerably from well below the recommended limits set by regulatory bodies to several times higher.

Yet, consuming even low amounts of inorganic arsenic through food or drinking water can lead to cancers and a range of other health problems, such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes."


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2025 ... wtab-en-us
You forgot to post a link to all the studies that show that rice yields go up with the raising of the levels of carbon dioxide. So, rising levels of carbon mean more rice crops which means more food.
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Old Sailor wrote: Apr 21st, 2025, 8:23 am
77TA wrote: Apr 21st, 2025, 6:55 am Lol...^^^ That's quite a stretch. Rice has arsenic. Wellknown. Just eat white rice problem solved.
Easy enough to say except white rice has a higher glycemic number and is not the best for Diabetics!

We just can't win as everything we need to eat will kill us in the end anyway.

I give up and am going to eat what I want but in moderation!
For sure. That's why that article made me laugh suggesting climate change will poison us with arsenic through rice. I mean seriously...talk about tailor made fear articles for the climate sheep.
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Japanese eat lotsa rice, 3x daily, all their life. Very little cancer problems there.
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