Climate change.
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Re: Climate change.
Well, from this "snowflake" to finish the article off.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Jun 19th, 2023, 1:51 pm Snowflake alert!!!
Where are the parents of these brainwashed children??
https://www.castanet.net/news/World/432 ... mate-trialMontana officials sought to downplay a first-of-its-kind trial over a state's obligations to protect residents from climate change, saying on Monday that a victory by the young plaintiffs would not change approvals for fossil fuel projects.
Attorneys for Montana's Republican attorney general began laying out their defense following a week of often emotional testimony in state court from more than a dozen young people who sued the state in 2020.
The 16 plaintiffs, ranging in age from 5 to 22 years old, say they're being harmed by wildfire smoke, excessive heat and other effects of climate change. They’re asking a judge to declare unconstitutional a state law that prevents agencies from considering the effect of greenhouse gases when they issue permits for fossil fuel development.
Experts say greenhouse gas emissions from coal, oil and natural gas are making the Earth hotter.
Plaintiffs' attorneys say Montana has never denied a permit for a fossil fuel project, but the state's lead environmental regulator testified Monday that permitting practices would not change if the young environmentalists win their case.
“We do not have the authority to not permit something that fully complies with the law,” said Department of Environmental Quality Director Chris Dorrington. “We are not the ones that created the law. We are the ones that implement the law.”
State officials also drew a distinction between the law being challenged — a provision of the Montana Environmental Protection Act that they characterized as “procedural” — and regulatory acts such as the Clean Air Act of Montana.
Only regulatory acts can used as the basis for permit rejections, and those don't allow permits to be denied in Montana based on climate impacts, said DEQ Air, Energy and Mining Division Administrator Sonja Nowakowski.
First, I would say the parents may be in Montana.
And it looks like the judge could grant an avenue as a means to set a new, "legal president," so maybe we'll see.
https://www.castanet.net/news/World/432 ... ial#432672
The young plaintiffs testified over five days last week that climate change is marring their lives, with smoke from worsening wildfires choking the air they breathe. Drought is drying up rivers that sustain agriculture, fish, wildlife and recreation.
Olivia Vesovich, 20, a student at the University of Montana who grew up in Missoula, said she suffers from breathing problems that make wildfire smoke nearly unbearable.
As her respiratory reactions grew worse during the frequent smoke events that have shrouded Missoula, Vesovich said her mother in recent years started taking them on trips during fires in search of cleaner air — to Washington state, Idaho and elsewhere in Montana.
“It feels like it's suffocating me, like if I'm outside for minutes,” Vesovich said. “Climate change is wreaking so much havoc on our world right now and I know that will only be getting worse.”
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In prior rulings, State District Judge Judge Kathy Seeley significantly narrowed the scope of the case. Even if the plaintiffs prevail, Seeley has said she would not order officials to formulate a new approach to address climate change.
Instead, the judge could issue what’s called a “declaratory judgment,” saying officials violated the state Constitution. That would set a new legal precedent of courts weighing in on cases typically left to the government’s legislative and executive branches.
Carbon dioxide, which is released when fossil fuels are burned, traps heat in the atmosphere and is largely responsible for the warming of the climate. Carbon dioxide levels in the air this spring reached the highest levels they’ve been in over 4 million years, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration said earlier this month. Greenhouse gas emissions also reached a record last year, according to the International Energy Agency.
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Re: Climate change.
Polar Bears survived 1600 years of ice free summers in the Holocene. All the nonsense about polar bears losing population from an ice free summer is likely misinformation. This was a period in time 8K+ years back when sea levels were 3m to 5m higher than today and CO2 was near starvation levels.
https://polarbearscience.com/2023/06/16 ... -holocene/
As polar ice comes and goes, it appears that Polar Bear evolution is driven by climate change. Polar Bears came in to being because of climate change as brown bears were forced to inhabit sea ice.
https://polarbearscience.com/2023/05/30 ... te-change/
https://polarbearscience.com/2023/06/16 ... -holocene/
As polar ice comes and goes, it appears that Polar Bear evolution is driven by climate change. Polar Bears came in to being because of climate change as brown bears were forced to inhabit sea ice.
https://polarbearscience.com/2023/05/30 ... te-change/
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And its because of political screwing around for control, manipulation of the people, and then the media that feeds it to the people no one can trust a damn thing coming from any of them.
"Watchdog hits John Kerry with science ethics complaint over climate change deaths claim. Despite the enormity of Mr. Kerry’s claim, he did not cite any scientific evidence for its basis," the PPT complaint stated. "Nor is there any apparent scientific research that supports a claim that there are currently 15 million people dying yearly due to greenhouse gas emissions — or any other single cause of death that is tracked."
"Such a blatant misstatement of scientific information to the public is, by its nature, a threat to public trust and good governance," it continued. "It is made far worse when such misinformation is used to publicly support sweeping policy changes like trying to reach net-zero emissions in agriculture, which would have untold effects upon the economy and lives of the American people writ large."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/watch ... 245e&ei=12
"Watchdog hits John Kerry with science ethics complaint over climate change deaths claim. Despite the enormity of Mr. Kerry’s claim, he did not cite any scientific evidence for its basis," the PPT complaint stated. "Nor is there any apparent scientific research that supports a claim that there are currently 15 million people dying yearly due to greenhouse gas emissions — or any other single cause of death that is tracked."
"Such a blatant misstatement of scientific information to the public is, by its nature, a threat to public trust and good governance," it continued. "It is made far worse when such misinformation is used to publicly support sweeping policy changes like trying to reach net-zero emissions in agriculture, which would have untold effects upon the economy and lives of the American people writ large."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/watch ... 245e&ei=12
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John Kerry is such a nitwit and lies more than Satan himself. There is no other way to do his job. They need more than the threat of a subpoena, they just need to do it considering they don't know what Kerry even does. Biden is a planetary menace.liisgo wrote: ↑Jun 20th, 2023, 1:36 pm And its because of political screwing around for control, manipulation of the people, and then the media that feeds it to the people no one can trust a damn thing coming from any of them.
"Watchdog hits John Kerry with science ethics complaint over climate change deaths claim. Despite the enormity of Mr. Kerry’s claim, he did not cite any scientific evidence for its basis," the PPT complaint stated. "Nor is there any apparent scientific research that supports a claim that there are currently 15 million people dying yearly due to greenhouse gas emissions — or any other single cause of death that is tracked."
"Such a blatant misstatement of scientific information to the public is, by its nature, a threat to public trust and good governance," it continued. "It is made far worse when such misinformation is used to publicly support sweeping policy changes like trying to reach net-zero emissions in agriculture, which would have untold effects upon the economy and lives of the American people writ large."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/watch ... 245e&ei=12
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And more, hypocrisy and spending on the canadian side of things.
Governor General flies high on our dollars
The latest is a $39,252 bill for 25,000 litres of jet fuel to fly the GG to a climate conference in Rovaniemi, Finland in February so she could deliver a speech on the dangers of carbon emissions. (The total trip cost has yet to be disclosed.)
“Temperatures are warming,” Simon insisted. “Sea ice is melting. The natural rhythm of the North is changing In Canada.” Innuit hunters are dying because they go out on ice that should be thicker than it is and end up falling into the ocean.”
Yet, according to the online news source Blacklock’s Reporter, Simon’s four-day, 15-person junket produced an estimated 77 tonnes of carbon dioxide. According to Transport Canada, driving the average family van for a whole year produces 3.5 tonnes.
That’s typical of the hypocrisy of climate crusaders who fly all over the world in private jets to appear at conferences where they can eat planeloads of food flown in from the four corners of the world and pontificate about how the rest of us have to curtain our lifestyles to save the planet.
Governor General flies high on our dollars
The latest is a $39,252 bill for 25,000 litres of jet fuel to fly the GG to a climate conference in Rovaniemi, Finland in February so she could deliver a speech on the dangers of carbon emissions. (The total trip cost has yet to be disclosed.)
“Temperatures are warming,” Simon insisted. “Sea ice is melting. The natural rhythm of the North is changing In Canada.” Innuit hunters are dying because they go out on ice that should be thicker than it is and end up falling into the ocean.”
Yet, according to the online news source Blacklock’s Reporter, Simon’s four-day, 15-person junket produced an estimated 77 tonnes of carbon dioxide. According to Transport Canada, driving the average family van for a whole year produces 3.5 tonnes.
That’s typical of the hypocrisy of climate crusaders who fly all over the world in private jets to appear at conferences where they can eat planeloads of food flown in from the four corners of the world and pontificate about how the rest of us have to curtain our lifestyles to save the planet.
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According to the CBC, "Climate Change" was going to ruin the Canadian wine industry. Not only are they wrong, but they are continually wrong.
As vintners "try hard to adapt to climate change", production keeps rising.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/cli ... -1.6873648
https://climaterealism.com/2023/06/wron ... roduction/
As vintners "try hard to adapt to climate change", production keeps rising.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/cli ... -1.6873648
https://climaterealism.com/2023/06/wron ... roduction/
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Re: Climate change.
I trust the UBCO.Jlabute wrote: ↑Jun 22nd, 2023, 7:18 am According to the CBC, "Climate Change" was going to ruin the Canadian wine industry. Not only are they wrong, but they are continually wrong.
As vintners "try hard to adapt to climate change", production keeps rising.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/cli ... -1.6873648
https://climaterealism.com/2023/06/wron ... roduction/
“ . . . Climate change may help the winemakers decide to reorient the nature of the grape they want to grow here according to the evolution of climate and the best combination of climate, type of soil, and the Okanagan conditions," (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/az4Q6DGHSZk).
And the UBCO is dedicated to helping them with that.
https://wine.ubc.ca/
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"Trust" who you like, it is not what data shows as far as production goes. World-wide production is only gaining over the decades. The CBC said there would be a decline in wine production. There hasn't been. You haven't provided any details to claim otherwise.Spiff wrote: ↑Jun 22nd, 2023, 8:49 amI trust the UBCO.Jlabute wrote: ↑Jun 22nd, 2023, 7:18 am According to the CBC, "Climate Change" was going to ruin the Canadian wine industry. Not only are they wrong, but they are continually wrong.
As vintners "try hard to adapt to climate change", production keeps rising.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/cli ... -1.6873648
https://climaterealism.com/2023/06/wron ... roduction/
“ . . . Climate change may help the winemakers decide to reorient the nature of the grape they want to grow here according to the evolution of climate and the best combination of climate, type of soil, and the Okanagan conditions," (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/az4Q6DGHSZk).
And the UBCO is dedicated to helping them with that.
https://wine.ubc.ca/
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Thanks. After I explored the UBCO website to see how they are helping with that, I will.Jlabute wrote: ↑Jun 22nd, 2023, 9:00 am"Trust" who you like, it is not what data shows as far as production goes. World-wide production is only gaining over the decades. The CBC said there would be a decline in wine production. There hasn't been. You haven't provided any details to claim otherwise.Spiff wrote: ↑Jun 22nd, 2023, 8:49 am
I trust the UBCO.
“ . . . Climate change may help the winemakers decide to reorient the nature of the grape they want to grow here according to the evolution of climate and the best combination of climate, type of soil, and the Okanagan conditions," (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/az4Q6DGHSZk).
And the UBCO is dedicated to helping them with that.
https://wine.ubc.ca/
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And more from the UBC that I'm perusing right now.
https://guides.library.ubc.ca/climate/data
Perhaps this link will interest you.
https://guides.library.ubc.ca/climate/data
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Reason: Off Topic
Reason: Off Topic
"The western far Left is habitually the most stupid, naive people you can imagine. They come up with these really goofy constructs and it's all about feeling good about yourself." - James Carville
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The Evil Sky Genie is after this guy.
"Meteorologist quits after death threats he received over climate change coverage"
https://torontosun.com/news/world/meteo ... e-coverage
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"Meteorologist quits after death threats he received over climate change coverage"
https://torontosun.com/news/world/meteo ... e-coverage
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Re: Climate change.
The comments that follow the article are worth the reading time.
People are fed up with the never ending drum roll of KlimateKrises over every little storm, brisk breeze or forest fire. Enough, already!
People are fed up with the never ending drum roll of KlimateKrises over every little storm, brisk breeze or forest fire. Enough, already!
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. There’s a certain point at which ignorance becomes malice, at which there is simply no way to become THAT ignorant except deliberately and maliciously.
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Re: Climate change.
So I guess Weather Network employees better be watching their backs.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/climate
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/climate
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/co ... cc1d0&ei=9Conrad Black: The lunatic left hijacked the environment for anti-capitalist ends
The recent fog that settled briefly on many northeastern cities from Ottawa to Philadelphia as a result of unusually extensive forest fires in Quebec and northern Ontario led to the predictable conscription of this freakish event as further evidence of the need to assault the oil and gas industry and ratchet up the cost of living of practically everyone. This is part of the self-assigned Canadian mission of saving the planet from the capitalists. There is never much of a respite from outbursts of delusional absurdities of the climate extremists. I’m not a climate denier but I am a resolute and vociferous opponent of hare-brained, self-punitive, instant cures for problems whose causes, proportions, and possible solutions are not fully known to us.
As I’ve written here before, the legitimate, if frequently tedious, hue and cry of authentic conservationists in the 1970’s and 1980’s making a good and at least in its objectives, an irrefutable case for reduction of air and water pollution, suddenly was transmogrified by a gigantic gain-of-function booster into an unholy war on fossil fuels and a verbal and regulatory assault on anyone who dissented from what was represented by hysterics such as former U.S. vice president Al Gore, (who at least made a lot of money out of it), as the necessity for a complete shutdown of fossil fuel industries on pain of the destruction of all life in the world within approximately 10 years.
These respectable if misguided alarmists were not responsible for the swift metamorphosis of a congeries of birdwatchers, lepidopterists, and duck-hunters into a war on the modern economy. That occurred when the international left, completely routed and humiliated without a shot being fired in the Cold War, and showing an unsuspected talent at improvisation, crowded onto and took over the environmentalist bandwagon, and transformed ecology into an instant and non-negotiable ultimatum to Western society to dispense with all economically viable means of heating and air conditioning and vehicular propulsion in the name of saving the planet from the evils of capitalism. It was a quick rebound from the West’s greatest and most bloodless strategic victory in the history of the world in the complete destruction of international communism and the disintegration of the Soviet Union.
Those of us who said this was nonsense were chastised, ostracized as morons guilty of the capital offense of failing to ”follow the science.” It was an act of moral and intellectual turpitude comparable to the treatment many of us same recidivists received when we suggested several years ago that since children did not easily contract or communicate the coronavirus, shutting down schools was not a good idea. Those of us who recognize that we have no idea what the proportions of climate change are, have given up suggesting that unusually horrid winter conditions undermine global warming alarmism. Our opponents in this debate have not shown any similar restraint and any warm day is conclusive proof of global warming.
The Globe and Mail led the Canadian media in unambiguous imputation of the unusually heavy forest fires two weeks ago to climate change. “The large, widespread wildfires this spring will happen more and more often,” read a Globe editorial. “The amount of forest burned each year is predicted to double (and) ever escalating climate heating is the propellant of all of this.“ Because global warming did not escalate as was deafeningly predicted 25 years ago, and only amounts to approximately 1.1 centigrade degrees since 1880, the climate alarmists have retreated from global warming to climate change, but their hearts and minds are still riveted on the delicious specter of us all frying like eggs if we don’t renounce the evils of oil and natural gas and gasoline. The Globe and Mail gave no hint of the source for these jeremiads but went on to describe an apparently irreversible and long-standing upward trend in the incidence and extent of Canadian forest fires. ”How we got here is clear.”
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A good article, esp paragraph 3
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. There’s a certain point at which ignorance becomes malice, at which there is simply no way to become THAT ignorant except deliberately and maliciously.
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