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captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 7th, 2022, 9:02 am Who cares about cars streaming data ? If you got nothing to hide etc etc . Could be good for tracking criminals and creeps like that . Im all for it .
Well...I don't subscribe to the "nothing to hide" philosophy. I have me to hide. But I also carry around a tracking device with a mic and cameras. And I haven't yet gone to the bother of disabling the cell on the car.
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thats cool , i myself dont care about being tracked as its been going on since the patriot act was put into law by bush govt :smt045
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captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 10:07 am thats cool , i myself dont care about being tracked as its been going on since the patriot act was put into law by bush govt :smt045
Don't care? Or resigned to it? I care. But there's nothing I can do about it and not enough voters will care enough to do anything either.
I could choose to not carry around a perfectly good tracking device. I could choose to turn off the cellular transmission of the car. But both are not terribly attractive options.
I could also choose to use cash everywhere but I sure like the phone tap. Even the watch tap is cool. So we trade off our anonymity for some conveniences.
I choose not to have home automation devices always listening and waiting for their keywords to respond.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 1:23 pm I choose not to have home automation devices always listening and waiting for their keywords to respond.
They tend to respond without you saying anything. Can be quite entertaining at times.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 1:23 pm
captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 10:07 am thats cool , i myself dont care about being tracked as its been going on since the patriot act was put into law by bush govt :smt045
Don't care? Or resigned to it? I care. But there's nothing I can do about it and not enough voters will care enough to do anything either.
I could choose to not carry around a perfectly good tracking device. I could choose to turn off the cellular transmission of the car. But both are not terribly attractive options.
I could also choose to use cash everywhere but I sure like the phone tap. Even the watch tap is cool. So we trade off our anonymity for some conveniences.
I choose not to have home automation devices always listening and waiting for their keywords to respond.
yea resigned to it is accurate ,both the canadian govt an us govt allow police to access any connected devices without our approval. so it makes sense for the newer cars after a certain date to have tracking devices. ev car would be same as a gas car in that regards . it certainly wouldnt prevent me from buying a ev of some type.
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I am not big rig driver, 150 miles per/charge seems useless.
https://kenworth.com/trucks/t680e/

Meanwhile 500 miles with 20 minute refuel time.
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GordonH wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 6:37 pm Meanwhile 500 miles with 20 minute refuel time.
https://nikolamotor.com/tre-fcev
That make sense.

A 100% battery powered electric truck I don't believe is feasible anytime soon. Unless the electric truck is connected to overhead "trolley" wires like we see with busses or European trains.

Wonder if electrifying our trains in Canada is feasible? Kinda expensive to swap over I suspect.
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seewood wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 7:39 am
GordonH wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 6:37 pm Meanwhile 500 miles with 20 minute refuel time.
https://nikolamotor.com/tre-fcev
That make sense.

A 100% battery powered electric truck I don't believe is feasible anytime soon. Unless the electric truck is connected to overhead "trolley" wires like we see with busses or European trains.

Wonder if electrifying our trains in Canada is feasible? Kinda expensive to swap over I suspect.
i doubt cn and cp want to remain in the last century

https://electricautonomy.ca/2022/03/02/ ... comotives/
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captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 8:43 am i doubt cn and cp want to remain in the last century
Interesting, as mentioned, "baby steps"
The transition is happening without a doubt, but unfortunately for some, just not fast enough.


Although CN’s new zero-emission locomotive is 100 per cent electric, it needs to be deployed in tandem with other diesel locomotives (known as a “consist”).
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seewood wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 9:32 am
captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 8:43 am i doubt cn and cp want to remain in the last century
Interesting, as mentioned, "baby steps"
The transition is happening without a doubt, but unfortunately for some, just not fast enough.


Although CN’s new zero-emission locomotive is 100 per cent electric, it needs to be deployed in tandem with other diesel locomotives (known as a “consist”).
for now , while cp will be using all hydrogen if they can make it work.

https://www.ge.com/news/reports/leading ... ght-trains

if you read what general electric says , this is just step one , and each step means less oil being needed. less oil being used. the locomotive industry is moving away from oil, not towards it, that age is over.
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I wonder if eco nuts have been adding train batteries to their lithium rape of the planet ideology? About 100 Tesla battery packs for the CN train.
And look at that range! Whooo, a whopping 224 km. Incredible.
CP on the other hand is going in the right direction. Even the big diesel empire from Cummins is going hydrogen.
https://www.cummins.com/news/2021/08/20 ... fast-track
Hydrogen fuel cell, not golf carts, is the real future.
And as for trucks, I prefer the Nikola Two. 900 mile range!
Spectacular range and efficiency with the small battery pack that gets regenerative braking charging. Great for long hauls through BC mountains. :up:
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JagXKR wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 9:58 am I wonder if eco nuts have been adding train batteries to their lithium rape of the planet ideology?

Hydrogen fuel cell, not golf carts, is the real future.
And oil extraction and burning isn't raping the planet?
My EV ain't no golf cart. Drive one some day. They're a hoot to drive. Not a golf cart.
Electricity is everywhere. What is it, 3 stations in the lower mainland and one here? Yeah that enables travel. :135: Where's the eye-rolling smilie?
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Gotta wonder how much electrical mooching of electricity from friends, public spaces/buildings and businesses is/will go on.

'Hey, can I just get a quick charge, I go to be somewhere, buddy?' You want to plug in at my place? Min. $20.00
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YzzzR1 wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 10:33 am Gotta wonder how much electrical mooching of electricity from friends, public spaces/buildings and businesses is/will go on.

'Hey, can I just get a quick charge, I go to be somewhere, buddy?' You want to plug in at my place? Min. $20.00
At 11¢/kwh from 0 to full on my car would come to about $7. One would almost never be at 0. I always offer $5 to my brother. He always declines.
If one respectfully asks permission to use a plug at a public place then why not? But really, it's simply not worth it to mooch at 120V charging speed. Unless you expect to be there for many hours, forget about it.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 10:40 am
YzzzR1 wrote: Jun 9th, 2022, 10:33 am Gotta wonder how much electrical mooching of electricity from friends, public spaces/buildings and businesses is/will go on.

'Hey, can I just get a quick charge, I go to be somewhere, buddy?' You want to plug in at my place? Min. $20.00
At 11¢/kwh from 0 to full on my car would come to about $7. One would almost never be at 0. I always offer $5 to my brother. He always declines. So? Times that by how many a month.... Not everyone will offer to pay.
If one respectfully asks permission to use a plug at a public place then why not? Mooching But really, it's simply not worth it to mooch at 120V charging speed. Unless you expect to be there for many hours, forget about it. Geez, my friends tend to stay and visit for a few hours, You?
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