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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 7:16 pm
hozzle wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 6:00 pm Will this happen here... some say it has already started.
Jeez, the writing and intonation and alarming sensationalizing of what is actually the much smaller rate of fires from EV's per capita was almost laughable.
But yes sure we've all seen the pictures of fires in Canada and the US. Everybody makes a huge deal of the rare EV fires without any mention of the way higher incidence rate of ICEV fires. Gee didn't we just have a couple right here in Kelowna in the last couple days. Not EV's.
Get a grip.
Reason low amount probably due to actual amount on the road. As production increases (sloppy manufacturing), incidents will raise.
btw anyone looking to replace their vehicle, impo look for pre-pandemic manufacturer vehicle, post pandemic (late 2020 to now) extremely sloppy workmanship.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 7:16 pm
hozzle wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 6:00 pm Will this happen here... some say it has already started.
Jeez, the writing and intonation and alarming sensationalizing of what is actually the much smaller rate of fires from EV's per capita was almost laughable.
But yes sure we've all seen the pictures of fires in Canada and the US. Everybody makes a huge deal of the rare EV fires without any mention of the way higher incidence rate of ICEV fires. Gee didn't we just have a couple right here in Kelowna in the last couple days. Not EV's.
Get a grip.
Well reaction to reports or media is up to the reader as well as the information. 16 of 141000 is rare to some and a raft to others, and this is just one model here.
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Here's an interesting story for you EV experts to digest.

Electric Pickup Trucks Are Dirtier Than You Think
https://www.thedrive.com/news/electric- ... -you-think
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GordonH wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 8:08 pm
Reason low amount probably due to actual amount on the road. As production increases (sloppy manufacturing), incidents will raise.
btw anyone looking to replace their vehicle, impo look for pre-pandemic manufacturer vehicle, post pandemic (late 2020 to now) extremely sloppy workmanship.
Didn't this thread talk about this not too long ago? From Feb of this year:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/electric-v ... -gas-cars/
Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100,000 sold
Gas-powered cars: 1,530 fires per 100,000 sold
Hybrid cars: 3,475 fires per 100,000 sold
That's what per capita means. Fully battery electric vehicles far and away the fewest per capita.

Interesting thought about workmanship. I wonder how all of this will play out. Of course with any product.
hozzle wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 8:24 pm Well reaction to reports or media is up to the reader as well as the information. 16 of 141000 is rare to some and a raft to others, and this is just one model here.
Yup. I own one. Was well aware and followed most of the requirements. As soon as the replacement batteries became available I had mine done within a week when they started. Of course we wouldn't know if there are still risks.
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Cabless ev trucks given green light in america

https://newatlas.com/automotive/einride ... -approval/
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bb49 wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 9:23 pm Here's an interesting story for you EV experts to digest.

Electric Pickup Trucks Are Dirtier Than You Think
https://www.thedrive.com/news/electric- ... -you-think
Ho hum. Yet another hit piece about mining and power production. Jeez. Most of the same factors involved in making and fueling ICEV's.
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Streamlining is great but I wonder how much is sacrificed in quality that may lead to these fire occurrences?
the company has managed to reduce the time it takes to produce a Model 3 battery pack by 94%, from 7 hours to under 17 minutes
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3 ... utomation/
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captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 8th, 2022, 10:07 am thats cool , i myself dont care about being tracked as its been going on since the patriot act was put into law by bush govt :smt045
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 10:06 pm
bb49 wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 9:23 pm Here's an interesting story for you EV experts to digest.

Electric Pickup Trucks Are Dirtier Than You Think
https://www.thedrive.com/news/electric- ... -you-think
Ho hum. Yet another hit piece about mining and power production. Jeez. Most of the same factors involved in making and fueling ICEV's.
maybe some folks think ice cars arrive by stork? [icon_lol2.gif]
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hozzle wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 10:19 pm Streamlining is great but I wonder how much is sacrificed in quality that may lead to these fire occurrences?
the company has managed to reduce the time it takes to produce a Model 3 battery pack by 94%, from 7 hours to under 17 minutes
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3 ... utomation/
how fast were cars made before a tesla existed? minutes? [icon_lol2.gif] next we are going to hear paint on a ev is like uranium but fine on a ice car [icon_lol2.gif]
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captkirkcanada wrote: Jun 28th, 2022, 9:59 am
hozzle wrote: Jun 27th, 2022, 10:19 pm Streamlining is great but I wonder how much is sacrificed in quality that may lead to these fire occurrences?



https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3 ... utomation/
how fast were cars made before a tesla existed? minutes? [icon_lol2.gif] next we are going to hear paint on a ev is like uranium but fine on a ice car [icon_lol2.gif]
I don't think that there are volatile components in a ICE vehicle so 17 min to make an engine is possible and it wont self combust.... the 7hr manufacture time battery packs had twice the temp tolerance than the 17min manufacture time packs... with that said... I'm still kinda confused about the analogy re manufacturing times between ICEV & EV, but I guess you can say the paint will be volatile if you go to uranium based like you suggested, but why would you? :200: [icon_lol2.gif]
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Appears as though Toyota's newest EV, the BZ4X is under-going a massive recall. Apparently the wheels can fall off after the hub bolts loosen.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/now- ... ive-recall
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hozzle wrote: Jun 28th, 2022, 3:20 pm if you go to uranium based like you suggested, but why would you? :200: [icon_lol2.gif]
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Jlabute wrote: Jul 5th, 2022, 6:46 am Appears as though Toyota's newest EV, the BZ4X is under-going a massive recall. Apparently the wheels can fall off after the hub bolts loosen.
These things can happen to any car. It's not just because it's an EV.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Jul 5th, 2022, 8:27 am
Jlabute wrote: Jul 5th, 2022, 6:46 am Appears as though Toyota's newest EV, the BZ4X is under-going a massive recall. Apparently the wheels can fall off after the hub bolts loosen.
These things can happen to any car. It's not just because it's an EV.
Not to a point when a major recall is required.

Apparently this affects Subaru BEVs too.

https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2022 ... oming-off/

Shares drop on Embarrassing first EVs.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 022-06-24/
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